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Postby davidmarver » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:53 pm

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Amazinz wrote:Piazza is guaranteed to go into the hall as a Met. Any other opinion is just California Dreamin'. }:-)


Agreed. When I hear the name Piazza, I think of the Mets.

When I hear the name Piazza, I think of the Dodgers. His best season came as a Dodger and he's had too many mediocre Piazza years as a Met for me to put him in the Hall as a Met. He'll always be a Dodger in my book.
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Postby blankman » Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:01 pm

davidmarver wrote:
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Amazinz wrote:Piazza is guaranteed to go into the hall as a Met. Any other opinion is just California Dreamin'. }:-)


Agreed. When I hear the name Piazza, I think of the Mets.

When I hear the name Piazza, I think of the Dodgers. His best season came as a Dodger and he's had too many mediocre Piazza years as a Met for me to put him in the Hall as a Met. He'll always be a Dodger in my book.


Maybe so, but I have no doubt he'll go in a Met.
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Postby Amazinz » Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:02 pm

I agree that based purely on statistics it would be as a Dodger but Piazza is the modern day Mr. Met and he will always be linked to the Mets and the Subway Series.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:50 pm

Mike Piazza:

Dodgers - 177 HR, 563 RBI
Mets - 215 HR, 568 RBI

The batting average is the only thing that dropped off for him while a Met.

He's had one extra year as a Met (counting this year so far as a year) where he had 23 HR and 76 RBI. That was after the trade from the Dodgers where he had 9 HR and 30 RBI before beind dealt. That still doesn't make up the difference as a Dodger, he's been better as a Met in the similar amount of time. You can probably make a case that Piazza only played 20+ games in his rookie year and the year that he got traded he spent the majority of the time on the Mets, but even if so the stats wouldn't be too far off to say that he's better as a Dodger.

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Postby Tavish » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:57 pm

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dannyolbb wrote:Also Gibson in 68, Mcclain in 68, Fingers in 81, Hernandez in 84, and (I can't believe I forgot him) Eck in 92.


They didn't win it the same year that they won the Cy Young.


Yes they did. It has happened 9 times in the nearly 50 years the Cy Young award has been handed out.

Clemens should go in as a Yankee (assuming that is still what he wants) although the Hall will most likely put him in as a Red Sox. Piazza should definitely go in as a Met.
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Postby davidmarver » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:04 pm

Piazza has played 726 games as a Dodger and 956 as a Met.

Dodger Stats
177 HR (15.29 AB/HR)
563 RBI (4.81 AB/RBI)
896/2707 (.331 AVG)
109.9 Best Season VORP (1997)
NL ROY

Met Stats
247 HR (13.89 AB/HR)
759 RBI (4.52 AB/RBI)
1019/3431 (.296 AVG)
78.1 Best Season VORP (2000)
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Postby eftda » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:01 pm

Tavish wrote:
eftda wrote:
dannyolbb wrote:Also Gibson in 68, Mcclain in 68, Fingers in 81, Hernandez in 84, and (I can't believe I forgot him) Eck in 92.


They didn't win it the same year that they won the Cy Young.


Yes they did. It has happened 9 times in the nearly 50 years the Cy Young award has been handed out.

Clemens should go in as a Yankee (assuming that is still what he wants) although the Hall will most likely put him in as a Red Sox. Piazza should definitely go in as a Met.


DOH! I was chekcing an AL only list. :-b
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Postby Mookie4ever » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:42 pm

What was this thread about again?

Oh yeah. I say none. He gets caught for steroid use and hangs out across the street in a bar with Raffy, Bonds and Rose.

If he doesn't get caught, he goes in as a Yankee.

Did you know that he was first drafted by the Mets in the 12th round of the 1981 draft but the Mets in their infinite wisdom didn't sign him?
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Postby pokerplaya » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:51 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:What was this thread about again?

Oh yeah. I say none. He gets caught for steroid use and hangs out across the street in a bar with Raffy, Bonds and Rose.

If he doesn't get caught, he goes in as a Yankee.

Did you know that he was first drafted by the Mets in the 12th round of the 1981 draft but the Mets in their infinite wisdom didn't sign him?


Yes, I'm aware.

They also passed on Reggie Jackson in the 1966 draft and instead drafted a complete bust. :-P :-P :-P
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Postby Amazinz » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:07 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Did you know that he was first drafted by the Mets in the 12th round of the 1981 draft but the Mets in their infinite wisdom didn't sign him?

The Mets did try to sign him but he opted to go to college.
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