most underrated player ever?

[eftda]

Dick Allen. By far the most deserving player not in the Hall of Fame and never even got more than 19% of the vote in the 10 years he was on the ballot.

What a shock, he played after Dimaggio. Writers shouldn't have the right to vote in players to the Hall of Fame.

[Pogotheostrich]

Stan Musial. He wasn't even selected to the All-Century team.
Apparently playing at the same time as Ted Williams makes you more forgettable in the eyes of the casual fan.

[WharfRat]

Stan Musial. He wasn't even selected to the All-Century team.
Apparently playing at the same time as Ted Williams makes you more forgettable in the eyes of the casual fan.

That's shocking, I didn't know that.

[Tavish]

Stan Musial. He wasn't even selected to the All-Century team.
Apparently playing at the same time as Ted Williams makes you more forgettable in the eyes of the casual fan.

Sure he was, well at least in a way. The All-Century team was a downright bad idea because it was based on the fans' vote, most of which have no concept of baseball history other than the players they have seen and Babe Ruth. Musial made the team through a special panel selection. Its not that big of an insult considering some of the other players who got on through that route include Honus Wagner (the greatest SS of all time) and Lefty Grove (the greatest LHP of all time). Big 6 and Warren Spahn also had to be selected through the special panel.

BTW Musial recieved 570,000+ votes from the fans (about 50,000 shy of making the cut). Tris Speaker who is widely considered the greatest defensive CF as well as one of the greatest offensive players of all time recieved 85,000 votes (less than Lou Brock, Tony Gywnn, and Reggie Jackson). Pretty silly.

[Arlo]

Most underrated ever? Tough question...

Stan Hack comes to mind.

[reznorsboy]

Position player: Andre "the Hawk" Dawson. This guy was amazing throughout his career and never really got his due. He did win the MVP but he wasn't inducted into the hall for some reason.

Pitcher. Tom Henke. This guy was known just like the Hawk was known but once again didn't get all the credit that he should have for his tremendous play.

[HOOTIE]

Just as a warning, I wouldn't use save percentage to justify your argument...I've been using it for ages with no avail (apparently winning % is the better measure for closers...go figure.)

No one has said that. Pitcher wins (how many wins he helped his team win). Save % has as many holes as swiss cheese.

[DannyMyron89]

for underated i have to say Rogers Hornsby

for all the amazing numbers he put up he is never mentioned in the greratest htiters ever

the only hitter to hit 400 and 40 homers

almost did it twice

easily the greatest right hand hitter to ever play check out his numbers

he also owns the record for highest batting average in a season in the modern era (424)

[Belle4Hall88]

Albert Belle!

[baseball6791]

Just as a warning, I wouldn't use save percentage to justify your argument...I've been using it for ages with no avail (apparently winning % is the better measure for closers...go figure.)

No one has said that. Pitcher wins (how many wins he helped his team win). Save % has as many holes as swiss cheese.

Not looking to start an arguement, but rather I'm just interested, how is save % a bogus stat or have as many holes as swiss cheese, and why is pitcher wins a better stat?