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Postby Peter Gammons » Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:25 am

I've only thought of it as the Big 2 (A-rod, Nomar).

Renteria's a stud and will only get better. Furcal's been a Top 3 SS this year so far.
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Postby JRRNeiklot » Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:41 am

I've been more than happy with Cabrera's performance so far this year.
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Postby wrveres » Mon Jun 16, 2003 3:04 am

jdh wrote:I see ARod and Nomar as really the big two shortstops, with a huge dropoff below those two. I don't think that the big four shortstops really exists anymore, with Jeter and Tejada both falling far below the level of Nomar and ARod this year especially. Jeter never was really on the level of Nomar in my opinion, and Tejada only reached that level for one year, and might have peaked last year. I think at this point, Jeter, Tejada, Furcal and Renteria are all at about the same level but far below the big two.



It is so fuuny to see you giving up on Tejada so quickly. It really is..

I have them like this
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    Nomar, Renteria, Tejada
    Cabrera, Furcal, Jeter.

And I have Renteria on 3 teams ... Cabrera on the fourth.
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Postby ChooseaShort » Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:18 am

Which is a better choice for the rest of the season? Cabrera or Furcal?
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Postby John Bonzo » Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:49 pm

Furcal is definitely hands down the better choice for the rest of the season.

Im going to wait a while before saying anything about Jeter's lack of production. I would say that much of his lack of production could be because of his horrible injury. I doubt he is totally healed from that. He stole 30 bases last year (or somehting like that)...that's where his most value is.
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Postby Dr.DooM » Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:20 pm

I would say Cabrera has a decent prognosis as well. Of all three (Furcal, Renteria, Cabrera) he's the only one who's remained steady since the beginning while the others have cooled a bit. For the last month, I would say Cabrera edges out Furcal in performance.

Now what to do about Mora? He is the anomoly of the season and nobody really knows what to do about this guy. He can't stay this good and my bet is that he will taper off sharply after the all-star break. Still, he never performed this well for this long so there's always the possibility that he's achieved some sort of "illumination" in the way he plays baseball. He indicated in an interview that his past dropoffs were due to the way he always tried to gun for a home run and be too much of a power hitter. He now believes in a more patient method and is concentrating on just getting the ball in play. This would explain is high OBP and average. Still, his true value will be only be known next year in retrospect. In the meantime, I'll ride him as long as he keeps hitting.
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