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Postby DrewBrown » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:32 am

In our league Manny Ramirez just got traded for Pods and Guardado. The 3rd place team is trading ManRam with the last place team. A couple people at the top aren't happy with the deal.

Is it unfair? The 9th ranked player in yahoo for the 122nd and the 49th.

Thoughts please.
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Postby WharfRat » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:34 am

Fairness doesn't really have anything to do with it. Who's receiving Manny, the better team or worse team?
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Re: Big Trade controversy...

Postby matmat » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 am

DrewBrown wrote:In our league Manny Ramirez just got traded for Pods and Guardado. The 3rd place team is trading ManRam with the last place team. A couple people at the top aren't happy with the deal.

Is it unfair? The 9th ranked player in yahoo for the 122nd and the 49th.

Thoughts please.


first off, don't go by yahoo rankings -- these are usually worthless.
as for the trade -- look at what categories each team needs help with and how many points they can gain in each.

the team that is getting pods and guardado -- does it need a handful of saves and steals to jump ahead in the standings? how about the team that is getting Manny? does it need a bump in the power and average stats?

in vacuum I wouldn't want to do a trade like this, but in the endgame of a roto season it might very well be a clutch (hehe... sue me for using that word) trade.
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Re: Big Trade controversy...

Postby BritSox » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:39 am

DrewBrown wrote:In our league Manny Ramirez just got traded for Pods and Guardado. The 3rd place team is trading ManRam with the last place team. A couple people at the top aren't happy with the deal.

Is it unfair? The 9th ranked player in yahoo for the 122nd and the 49th.

Thoughts please.


Well, firstly I have very little time for Yahoo rankings. It's lopsided, but not vetoably so. You can make the case for Pods and Guardado over Manny if you're in last and have no chance of catching up in homers/rbi even with him, but could gain a bunch of points in sb and sv.
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Postby DrewBrown » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:01 pm

I'm the 3rd place team giving Manny away. Over two months time I will probably lose around 5 points total in Hr's/RBI but can gain about 7 points with 15 steals. Saves aren't much of a factor since I'm in 3rd place already.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:06 pm

I'd say some of it depends on how far down the last place team is. In this case, he's 60 points back of the leaders, and is not an active manager. Suddenly, he's active when the 3rd place team needs some help. :-?

I didn't veto, just for the record...but I do think it's fishy.
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Postby bdrotoronto » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:12 pm

So basically the league is all aghast and thinking of vetoing because they think the team getting Pods and Guardado is getting the better end of the deal?!?.. 8-o :-?

That seems kinda ridiculous to me..
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:13 pm

The last place team is getting Manny?

The third place team is getting Pods and Eddie? No way that should be vetoed then. It's obvious the 3rd place team needs those two more than Manny, or he wouldn't do the trade.

I thought the last place team was selling Manny off to the third place team because he's out of it. Then, you'd have a legit discussion. But if the third place team is the one losing Manny, then it really isn't a question.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:14 pm

Really. If another contender wants to trade Manny away for two specialists I would be thrilled.
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Postby BritSox » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:14 pm

slomo007 wrote:I'd say some of it depends on how far down the last place team is. In this case, he's 60 points back of the leaders, and is not an active manager. Suddenly, he's active when the 3rd place team needs some help. :-?

I didn't veto, just for the record...but I do think it's fishy.


Well, if it's the third placed team giving up Manny, what the hell's the problem? Yes, it looks collusive if a dead manager comes back and helps out a guy who needs it, but if he's getting more than value for what he's given up, who cares?
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