Atrophying Testicles wrote:How am I in the wrong here? I didn't say Joe D's record was untouchable. I just said that certain people shouldn't be mentioned as possible breakers of this record. There are names here that are absolutely ridiculous and it's offensive to the accomplishment that players who haven't done crap in their career are considered by some fans as able to break it. That's all I'm saying. Because Benito Santiago hit in 30 straight games, then we can say that there are nobodies who can hit in 57 straight? Santiago was a big time player when he did that and to hit in another 27 straight after what Santiago did? Damon was absolutely on fire this year and he didn't reach 30. Pujols only made it to 30. Molitor didn't make it to 40. All I'm saying is show a little respect for the accomplishment and don't cheapen it by bringing up ridiculous names.
But you can't be the arbitrar of what a ridiculous name is. I brought up Ian Stewart. Let me walk you through why I named him.
Coors Field is the place where a challenge to the record could take place. The park is that far and above every other park that people play in today. And although Ian Stewart may not be the guy to challenge 56, he is the Rockies best hitting prospect (that I know of) and if it's going to happen, Coors Field will most likely play a factor. Toss in the fact that you have a consistently bad Padres team in the division and the unbalanced schedule allows a hitter to see a pitcher more often and become more comfortable with him and you've got a recipe for success.
Maybe it won't be Stewart. It probably won't be. But I'd bet dollars to donuts that if it happens, Coors Field is where Mr. 57 plays his home games. Or maybe in Arlington (although it's too bad he wouldn't be able to face Rangers pitching).Just because you don't know a player doesn't make him a nobody. It just means he isn't on the Yankees.
I know who Ian Stewart is big shot. I wrote up a profile of him when I did a scouting report on the top 65 minor league players about a month ago. I think he was in the top 10 and my #1 or #2 third basemen. The fact that he's the rockies best hitting prospect and plays at Coors field doesn't mean he deserves to be considered as a possibility to break Joe D's hit streak. You are wrong, you're out of your mind, you're basically delusional, and you're making yourself sound like a moron. Especially when you imply I only know players on the Yankees because I'm a Yankees fan and you don't agree with my stance on this issue.
And that argument about playing against the Padres isn't helping your argument given that if they play in the NL West for the Rockies they will likely hit a few pitchers parks to offset the hitter friendly Coors along their streak. Namely Petco, the best pitcher's park in the majors. And the unbalanced schedules allowing a player to see pitchers more often...How is that more favorable for any one player over another? Also consider how few players have come "close" to Joe D with all the advantages that today's hitters have had over the past 70 years.
Consider that DiMaggio did it with bigger ballparks, higher mounds, and weaker baseballs. He had all those things working against him and noone has come within 11 games of his streak despite all the greats that have come along since him and all the offensive improvements made to the game and noone has even come close. But Ian Stewart has a shot because he's going to get to play the Padres and in Coors field, and there are more pitchers in the league now? C'mon...Think about what you're saying. There have been lots of offensive improvements to the game and still the only player to get within 16 games of DiMaggio is Pete Rose and he still couldn't get closer than 12 back.
Do I think Crawford, Young, Ichiro, and Reyes are a few players who have "the best shot" of today's players to break the record? Yeah I guess they have "the best shot" of today's players. But just because Luis Castillo hit in 35 straight games and these guys are better players than he is, doesn't mean they'll challenge 56, or 40 for that matter or even 35.
When did I say that I don't think any of these players couldn't do what Luis Castillo did? When did I say that hitting in 35 straight games isn't semi-threatening the hit streak? I never did so stop putting words in my mouth. All I said is the only player I would consider as discussable right now as having a realistic chance to seriously challenge the 56 straight games is Ichiro. Any other player's mention to get to 56 is ridiculous and unrealistic. Do I think there are some players that can get to 35? Sure. 40? It's possible. 50? Nope.
You say Luis Castillo. I say Pete Rose. And he still didn't get within 10.
This all being said, I'd love to see someone challenge the hit streak someday. I think it would be incredibly exciting, intriguing, must see and one of the biggest stories in the history of sports for probably 3 weeks and another 2 weeks or more if the player did break it.