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Postby Fireball Express » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:58 pm

Nothing like political correctness to make me vomit.

I'm a smidge Irish.
I find the Notre Dame nickname, Fighting Irish to be offensive. Why must Irish be portrayed as getting into fights.

Seriously, I think that American Indian nicknames help educate people to which tribe is from which region of the country.


Are there Native American here at the Cafe?
If so, I'd like to hear how you feel about it.


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Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:29 pm

I can understand changing the names if it is something like the Redskins, or when the mascots are ridiculous (like the Cleveland Indians mascot) because that could obviously be offensive to some people, but when they are named after the people that lived in the same geographical region that the team is based I don't see a problem with it.
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Postby stevethumb » Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:34 pm

next will be the PETA people complaining about animal names demeaning the lions tigers and bears (oh my!) of sports and what about the christian coalition ? they should be up in arms about the unworthiness of such team names as the saints angels padres....
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Postby JTWood » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:18 pm

Fireball Express wrote:Nothing like political correctness to make me vomit.

;-D

PC = :-P :-t
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:56 pm

Yeah, we all know how offensive having the tribe name is.... idiots. I mean, the only one they can really take offense to is the Redskins, because thats almost like naming a team the N-words. (Is this allowed? If not, I'll delete it.) And maybe the Cleveland Indians mascot, because that smiling indian is just freaky.
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:02 pm

i hate being politicaly correct :-t people need to stop being so sensitive to every little thing :-t
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Postby DK » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:48 pm

Political correctness is for the feeble-minded. The only time it should be put into effect is when the word is obviously meant in an offensive way (such as the N word). I mean, just today someone chastised me for saying "***damn". I didn't intend it as being offensive to God (for the record, I am agnostic) but I'm still being crucified (no pun intended) for using it.

In other words: PC = :-t :-t
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:50 pm

racism is pointless are you gonna hate someone with different hair color because they are different looking? no, why does skin matter. Political correctness jsut makes things worse by putting people in groups by their race. Most black people have never been to Africa in their lives and neither have their parents probably.

and why do people say african american but no one says european americans...it so happen the term "white" offends me
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Postby warrick95 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:54 pm

Exactly. There's a difference between something

The way to solve this, IMO:

1. For names that include Native Americans on a whole (such as Indians, Braves, Redskins), the entire population of Native Americans should vote on whether or not it should be allowed. Simple majority for each. My guess is that only the Redskins would be banned.

2. For names that specify particular Native American tribes (such as Seminoles, Sioux, Cherokees), it is up to the university/team and the tribe to work it out. I believe the tribal council of many tribes works in a voting manner, anyway.

The really interesting part, come to think of it, is that many of our states, rivers, cities, etc. are named after Native American tribes. Is that derogatory for them, since most people that live in these states and cities are not Native Americans and that we are using their names for different purposes?

Examples:
Alabama
Arkansas
Arkansas
Connecticut
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Tennessee
The list goes on: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0854966.html

And JT, way to sum it all up. ;-)

Now what WOULD be racist, is if say, a college was named the White Hoods...but Native American names? I really don't get it.
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Postby Oat Soda » Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:13 am

warrick95 wrote:Now what WOULD be racist, is if say, a college was named the White Hoods...but Native American names? I really don't get it.


How about:

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