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Postby BigMusky » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:45 pm

There is alot of reading to catch up to speed here...but how hard would it be for someone passionate about this topic to find out how AROD performs in the 6th inning and later in games decided by 3 runs or less? We could argue that playing the redsox is pressure and etc, but that is too hard to quantify.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:51 pm

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And Alex's .484 OBP Close and Late; thats flat out incredible. 8-o


I just love the way you blatantly use half hearted, incomplete stats to disguise the truth.

A-Rod with RISP in close and late games this year is hitting a paltry .222.

His OBP is .364 and his Slg is .333. That, is flat out incredible considering his overall numbers.


Can you provide a link to where I can find this type of information?

Also, against the main two division rivals, in games that are always must wins, A-Rod this season is hitting .233 against Baltimore with an OBP of .261 and has a .255 BA against the Red Sox.


Always must-win games? You mean the same Baltimore Orioles who are 11 games out of first place, currently 4.5 behind Toronto?Those amazing division rivals?

And the Red Sox? The same Red Sox who went 11-8 vs. the Yankees during regular season play last season? And STILL lost the division to the Yankees?

Yeah, those games are freakin' pressure cookers... ;-7
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:54 pm

Also, the Yankees are 8-6 vs. Boston this season, and still 4.5 games out of first.

Who wins more does not have direct bearing on who leads the divison.
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Postby NZF » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:09 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
Can you provide a link to where I can find this type of information?


MLB.COM

Also, against the main two division rivals, in games that are always must wins, A-Rod this season is hitting .233 against Baltimore with an OBP of .261 and has a .255 BA against the Red Sox.


Always must-win games? You mean the same Baltimore Orioles who are 11 games out of first place, currently 4.5 behind Toronto?Those amazing division rivals?

And the Red Sox? The same Red Sox who went 11-8 vs. the Yankees during regular season play last season? And STILL lost the division to the Yankees?

Yeah, those games are freakin' pressure cookers... ;-7



I'll give you a tip, if you gave some thought to your comments before you wrote and posted them, you wouldn't look so ignorant.

When the Yankees played the O's in 2 series in late June and early July, Baltimore were very much in contention in the division. They were pressure, must win games and A-Rod did very little. They haven't played each other since the O's downward spiral.

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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:13 pm

That was in June. The Orioles are now 11 back. They were not must-win games. For further proof, look at my Red Sox argument.

Red Sox vs. Yankees:

2004: Red Sox 11, Yankees 8

Yankees won the division.

2005: Yankees 8, Red Sox 6

Red Sox lead the division.

How are they must win games if the team that wins the most winds up being in 2nd place? Maybe it seems like there is more pressure, but in reality, a game against the Indians or Athletics is just as important as a game against the Orioles. It's whoever wins more collective games, not who beats their division rival the most.
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Postby blankman » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:16 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:How are they must win games if the team that wins the most winds up being in 2nd place? Maybe it seems like there is more pressure, but in reality, a game against the Indians or Athletics is just as important as a game against the Orioles. It's whoever wins more collective games, not who beats their division rival the most.


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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:17 pm

Why does every thread have to be about the Yankees?

I was interested in the initial topic (top hitters hitting better with men on base) but now the hijack has gotten stupid.

Can't we have a discussion without all of the Yankee navel gazing?
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:21 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Why does every thread have to be about the Yankees?

I was interested in the initial topic (top hitters hitting better with men on base) but now the hijack has gotten stupid.

Can't we have a discussion without all of the Yankee navel gazing?


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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:22 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Why does every thread have to be about the Yankees?

I was interested in the initial topic (top hitters hitting better with men on base) but now the hijack has gotten stupid.

Can't we have a discussion without all of the Yankee navel gazing?


Mook, I apologize but NZF started this thread to show that A-Rod is bad with RISP. That's why on the first page he wrote "with the notable exception of one, everyone hits better with RISP."

If you were part of the "HOLY A-ROD BATMAN!!!" thread, you know exactly why he started it.

Again, I apologize that it turned into something that you aren't happy with, but you have to realize that NZF started this thread in order for this conversation to take place, which is largely why he hasn't objected to what this thread has turned into.
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Postby wrveres » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:24 pm

I even tried to change the subject ..

To no avail ..

Oh well ..Maybe its time to "Agree to disagree"
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