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Postby rjforlife » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:59 pm

wondering whom you guys would rate, and how you would rate the top 15 pitchers for a keeper, that is, for the rest of this season and the next season for the most part. here are some names to consider but i have no list


harden
clemens
burnett
prior
carpenter
pedro
santana
oswalt
sheets
dontrelle
peavy
zambrano
RJ
beckett
halladay
smoltz
mulder
buehrle
myers
bonderman
livan H
garland
duke
vazquez
morris
clement



and anyone else i forgot. just wanted to see how you rank these guys.
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Postby bellings » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:06 pm

Patterson should be in the mix. If only the Nats start giving him 3 runs when he pitches, he would have the total package. My league can keep 7 players in a 3/4 mix, and he is on my short list.
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Postby davidmarver » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:14 pm

Peavy, Harden, Halladay, Carpenter based on how they were drafted (make great keeper value).

I may even throw a few guys that would have gone undrafted in there such as Duke, Garland (though he is unlikely to repeat...at least in my eyes), Chacin, and several others since they'd bring great value.
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Postby Box » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:17 pm

Teir 1(young studs that you have to keep :
Harden
Santana
Peavy
Halladay
Oswalt
Sheets

Tier 2(older studs that may or not repeat their success):
Clemens
RJ
Pedro
Smoltz
Mulder


Tier 3(Injury/consistency issues, have the skills to become tier 1):
Burnett
Prior
Beckett
Zambrano
Buerhle
Carpenter
Willis
Bonderman
Myers
Clement
Morris



Not Keepers:
Livan (workhorse, can't hold up much longer under Frank)
Garland (not buying it, yet)
Duke (still too inexperienced, a big target in redraft leagues)
Vazquez (TOO inconsistent)
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Postby Drunken Rhino » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:17 pm

Owalt, Peavy, Prior, Santana, Harden, Carpenter, Halladay, Pedro, , Buerhle, Sheets, Willis, AJ, Beckett, Bonderman, C. Zambrano are my top 15.

That's not necessarily saying that they'll have the 15 best years next year, but have the higher probability than most other pitchers such as aging pitchers like RJ, Schilling and Clemens. RJ & Schilling are battling injuries and Clemens already retired once, so who knows if he'll retire again.
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Postby Drunken Rhino » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:22 pm

And isn't this in the wrong forum?
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Postby rjforlife » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:28 pm

might be....kind of grey area as it is just a question regarding ranking players. something often found in here. aside from that, please assume clemens WILL return for ranking purposes, and could anyone DARE rank their top fifteen 1-15?
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Postby shortsavage » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:30 pm

Box wrote:Teir 1(young studs that you have to keep :
Harden
Santana
Peavy
Halladay
Oswalt
Sheets

Tier 2(older studs that may or not repeat their success):
Clemens
RJ
Pedro
Smoltz
Mulder


Tier 3(Injury/consistency issues, have the skills to become tier 1):
Burnett
Prior
Beckett
Zambrano
Buerhle
Carpenter
Willis
Bonderman
Myers
Clement
Morris



Not Keepers:
Livan (workhorse, can't hold up much longer under Frank)
Garland (not buying it, yet)
Duke (still too inexperienced, a big target in redraft leagues)
Vazquez (TOO inconsistent)


These lists look good to me.
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Postby shortsavage » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:32 pm

Drunken Rhino wrote:And isn't this in the wrong forum?


These kinds of posts are what keep me away from the Cafe these days.
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Postby wshnats20 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:39 pm

just curious as to where everyone thinks oliver perez falls into this mix?
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