The Jury wrote:Back to the topic, is Jake Peavy really going to be that good? Was he highly touted coming into the league?
5 years from now the top 5 pitchers will definitely include Prior, Santana, and Harden. I think Halladay will be at his peak still when 5 years comes around.
He came out of Nowhere, Alabama so he was a low round pick for a reason. Pujols came out of nowhere...you don't have to be a big name to become dominant. Peavy's already better than almost every pitcher and he only just turned 24! He led the NL in ERA last year, is tied for the NL lead in strikeouts this season, has a WHIP just over 1.00 (1.02)...he's incredible.
For the record, Santana wasn't drafted, and Harden was picked in round 17 (compared to round 15 for Peavy).
Wow, Oliver Perez has fallen out of the top 15?!?!?!
I guess that's what happens in the café when you have a bad start and then hit the DL.
I imagine Santana would have been in the same spot if he had gone on the DL instead of going on his 2nd half tear like he did last year.
I can't wait to draft Ollie in the 15th round next year while everyone is asleep.
Well...
a) My "Sleepers" aren't 11-15, they are young guys who I think have a shot of making the top-5.
b) As for "falling" out of the top ten, he was never in my top ten, so it's really not surprising that I would keep him out of a 2010 top ten.
c) If you would have asked me a few years ago when Santana was in the bullpen just waiting to become the team's ace, I would have put him top-five in five years. He's that good. Ollie Perez is not.
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Wow, Oliver Perez has fallen out of the top 15?!?!?!
I guess that's what happens in the café when you have a bad start and then hit the DL.
I imagine Santana would have been in the same spot if he had gone on the DL instead of going on his 2nd half tear like he did last year.
I can't wait to draft Ollie in the 15th round next year while everyone is asleep.
Well...
a) My "Sleepers" aren't 11-15, they are young guys who I think have a shot of making the top-5.
b) As for "falling" out of the top ten, he was never in my top ten, so it's really not surprising that I would keep him out of a 2010 top ten.
c) If you would have asked me a few years ago when Santana was in the bullpen just waiting to become the team's ace, I would have put him top-five in five years. He's that good. Ollie Perez is not.
a) Ah, gotcha.
b) Ok, maybe he wasn't in your top ten but I'd bet millions that if this thread was posted during the pre-season nearly everyone would have had him on there to replace some of the more recent wonders. My point was that the café simply has a short memory.
c) I 100% agree, I was just trying to make a point. I have had Santana on my team ever since I saw him pitch 3+ years ago. I knew he was going to break bigtime after watching his stuff in relief.
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by davidmarver » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:29 pm 
I hope your not referring to John 
I have had Santana on my team ever since I saw him pitch 3+ years ago. I knew he was going to break bigtime after watching his stuff in relief.
), I still gurantee he will be a top 5 pitcher.
