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Postby Box » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:03 pm

I highly doubt Pedro at 1.8
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Postby daullaz » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:05 pm

bd3521 wrote:Abreau will be one year older so persoanally i will drop him just a few notches.


You mean, Abreu is the only MLB player that ages every year? That's odd. I could have sworn everyone above and below him on the list would be a year older as well.
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Postby bd3521 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:12 pm

daullaz wrote:
bd3521 wrote:Abreau will be one year older so persoanally i will drop him just a few notches.


You mean, Abreu is the only MLB player that ages every year? That's odd. I could have sworn everyone above and below him on the list would be a year older as well.

I was waiting for captain obvious. Its all relative. Abrea cant be stealing bases like this every year. You have to expect a 5-10% decline in production. He wouldn't be my 1st round choice, but second round without a doubt. His max would be 30 steals, 25 Hr's and 95 RBIs next year. He also doesn't have Thome bringing him in.

It also varies if your playing PTS or roto. He is one of the elite in roto because he hits a lot of categories.On the otherhand, in pts based leagues OF is a really deep position and doesn't have much value in the first round. Most other position studs have a higher VBD in the first.
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Postby jellyroll » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:24 pm

I took a crack at a couple modifications but kept giants!'s initial rankings to compare against.

1.1 Pujols
1.1b A Rod
1.3 Vlad
1.4 Tejada
1.10 Soriano
1.7 M Cab
1.11 Santana
1.12 M-Ram
2.2 Tex
2.1 Ortiz
1.5 ABreu
1.8 Pedro
1.6 D Lee
2.7 Crawford
2.8 Sheff
2.4 Ichiro
2.5 A Ram
2.6 Clemens
2.10 Halladay
2.11 Delgado
2.9 Matsui
3.1 Bonds
3.2 S Pod
3.3 Oswalt
2.3 Johnson
3.4 Mariano
3.5 Peavy
4.3 Harden
3.7 Helton
3.8 Prior
3.9 Zambrano
3.10 Young
3.11 Carpenter
3.12 D Train
4.1 Rolen
4.1 Edmonds
2.12 Schmidt
4.4 Ca Lee
4.5 SMoltz
4.6 Garland
4.7 A Jones
1.9 Beltran
4.8 Pierre
4.9 Mora
5.1 Dunn
4.11 Figgins
4.12 Bay
4.10 Jeter
3.6 Ensberg
5.2 Huff
NR Lidge
5.4 Damon
5.5 V Wells
5.6 Schilling
5.7 Gagne
5.8 F Rod
NR Chavez
5.10 Sexson
5.11 Bonderman
5.12 Zito
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:31 pm

Beltran will not make the top 8 rounds if he continues at his current pace. Top round is a fantasy.

Santana will fall to the late 2nd or 3rd round unless he picks it up.

RJ will fall to top 6-8 with the way he has been goiing.

Bonds would be an enormous gamble round 3 next season as you can' t believe a thing out of his mouth.

Pods is too high at 3.2 imo.

Helton will be a round 7-9 player.

Willis at 3.12 is way too high.

Mora over Jeter is a strecth


Wood in the top 8 rounds is crrazy imo.
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Postby TB13 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:45 pm

Any projections for next year that do not include Brian Roberts in the top 10 are completely unrealistic.
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Postby Kingctb27 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:12 pm

acsguitar wrote:I still think AROD gets the Nod at 1st pick

Doubt that ;-D
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Postby justinA » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:14 pm

bd3521 wrote:Abreau will be one year older so persoanally i will drop him just a few notches. Also we have to consider what team Soriano will play for. He has a sick lineup right now and a great ballpark.

Didn't see other post...
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Postby Kingctb27 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:15 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Beltran will not make the top 8 rounds if he continues at his current pace. Top round is a fantasy.

Santana will fall to the late 2nd or 3rd round unless he picks it up.


Wow, i wish I was in leagues with you. A guy like Beltran hasmad, mad potential for next year. I think people are forgetting what he did last year.
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Postby Fantasy Guru » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:18 pm

I think Zito's a bit too high on that one.

..although he's doing pretty damn good lately.
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