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Postby shmolex » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:53 pm

suprise - ensberg, giambi, lugo, and hafner until he hit the DL.

Busts - rolen, schmidt, and to a lesser extent Pudge.
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Postby bd3521 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:56 pm

Yeah I'm not a big fan of skinny Pudge
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:21 pm

I don't have a surprise on my roster, though I'm happy that Pierzynski has left his career HR mark in the dust (16, against previous best of 11, with two months left) after I waited last to pick a catcher (22nd round).
Nice value from Bonderman in the 10th.

Demise: Mota in the 7th round. Absolute wasted pick.
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Postby Nerfherders » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:02 pm

Doughhead wrote:Surprise: Utley
Demise: V-Mart


Victor Martinez? Youre kidding right?

1st among catchers in RBI
Tied 2nd among catchers in HR
6th among catchers in R
8th among catchers in OBP
9th among catchers in SLG

Yeah, big demise there.
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Postby TB13 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:47 pm

Nerfherders wrote:Victor Martinez? Youre kidding right?


How much better has VMart been than AJ Priez?
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Postby bd3521 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:07 pm

TB13 wrote:
Nerfherders wrote:Victor Martinez? Youre kidding right?


How much better has VMart been than AJ Priez?

AJ is posting the most dingers he has had ever in season. Vmart is starting to come around the past few weeks. Every year their are suprise players at every position.
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Postby TB13 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:09 am

bd3521 wrote:AJ is posting the most dingers he has had ever in season. Vmart is starting to come around the past few weeks. Every year their are suprise players at every position.


Off course there are. But we are talking about this year. Prior to the season beginning, it was logical to assume that AJ's homers would go up. After all, he did move to US Cell. The fact is that while, yes, VMart's #'s are improving, he has done nothing to date to distinguish himself from AJ.
And given their respective draft position, VMart can indeed be looked upon as, at least, a mild bust.
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Postby Buster Douglas » Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:43 am

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Millwood yet. So far, the guy has been fantastic for a ww starter or late round draft pick. While the wins have been hard to come by, and he was on the dl for a bit, his overally line is still quite impressive:
116ip, 91 k's, 3.18 era and 1.22 whip.

Patterson of course has been even filthier:
117ip, 113k's, 2.6 era, and 1.13 whip

I'd also like to give a shout-out to my staff anchor Rivera this year, who, while he hasn't been a surprise, is definitley having a career year and has gotten relatively little pub.

46 ip, 52 k's, .97 era and a .78 whip. Incredible
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Postby TB13 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:25 pm

Buster Douglas wrote:I'd also like to give a shout-out to my staff anchor Rivera this year, who, while he hasn't been a surprise, is definitley having a career year and has gotten relatively little pub.

46 ip, 52 k's, .97 era and a .78 whip. Incredible


Mo has been absolutely ridiculous this year. If you throw out his first weekend against the Sox, his #'s are even more amazing. He has been an entirely different pitcher since he started to throw the 4-seamer, in addition to his great cutter. He is throwing better than he has since the 90's.
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Postby baseballnewb » Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:46 pm

Giambi has to be my biggest surprise, I thought he was done for sure.

Thome has been my big demise, I drafted him in the 3rd round and thought I was getting a bargain.
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