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Postby dyuen87 » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:02 pm

well im not a met fan but i do follow them closely. i have a feeling that looper will close and baez becomes the main setup man after last night disaster from roberto hernandez :-o . looper on short leash? mets fans comments?
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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:03 pm

carter wrote:Bosox have alot more to offer then just Hanley:

Dustin Pedroia
Brandon Moss
Jon Lester
Jon Papelbon
Anibal Sanchez
Craig Hansen

those are all top tier guys... then they have others floating around like Kelly Shoppach and Manny Declaremen... i'm sure TB is drooling over their pitchers ...


Honestly I would love if the Rays could just get Sanchez and Lester, IMO it would help more then Hanley and some lesser prospect. Also I don't believe Hansen can be moved this close to after being drafted. Don't minor leaguers have to be with their team a year after they are drafted?
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Postby Amazinz » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:04 pm

hybrid wrote:Don't minor leaguers have to be with their team a year after they are drafted?

Yes and no. That's the rule but the PTBNL is the loophole.
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Postby Rirruto » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:06 pm

OK, so Manny's main reason for wanting to get traded is because he wants more "off the field privacy". And he's going to get that in NEW YORK F'IN CITY????
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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:07 pm

Amazinz wrote:
hybrid wrote:Don't minor leaguers have to be with their team a year after they are drafted?

Yes and no. That's the rule but the PTBNL is the loophole.


Ah true, but in reference to Hansen it would seem doubtful since he was just drafted/signed ... oh yeah and he is a Borass agent so I doubt he would be high in the Rays list.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:10 pm

hybrid wrote:
carter wrote:Bosox have alot more to offer then just Hanley:

Dustin Pedroia
Brandon Moss
Jon Lester
Jon Papelbon
Anibal Sanchez
Craig Hansen

those are all top tier guys... then they have others floating around like Kelly Shoppach and Manny Declaremen... i'm sure TB is drooling over their pitchers ...


Honestly I would love if the Rays could just get Sanchez and Lester, IMO it would help more then Hanley and some lesser prospect. Also I don't believe Hansen can be moved this close to after being drafted. Don't minor leaguers have to be with their team a year after they are drafted?




petit, sanchez, and lester would be better imo then hanley and petit..... 3 pitchers to go along with the rest of the drays pitchers would really set our pitching for many years.....
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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:17 pm

I agree, I was mainly just talking about the prospects from the Sox, so that's why I didn't mention Petit. I keep hearing people wishing it was Milledge too but i just don't see it, just to loaded in the OF with young talent. Petit, Sanchez, Lester, and some throw in (possibly INF) prospect .... would easily work for me.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:21 pm

Lester is untouchable, fyi.

And, that doesn't seem like a good haul for the Red Sox. I think the Mets do well, the D-Rays do well, but the Sox get screwed. If you're trading Manny to the Mets, get Beltran.

Sure, the Sox get some huge financial flexibility, but really hurt this year's team.

Oh, and Manny gets 10-5 rights this offseason, so that's why if he's going to be dealt, it has to be now.

If the Sox are picking up any of Manny's contract, then this deal is even worse.

I don't see it happening as presently constituted.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:24 pm

Oh, when is Cameron's contract up? This could help with Damon negotiations.

And, what are the big free agents next year? I imagine the Sox will go hard to replace Manny's bat if he is traded.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:25 pm

Transmogrifier wrote:Lester is untouchable, fyi.

And, that doesn't seem like a good haul for the Red Sox. I think the Mets do well, the D-Rays do well, but the Sox get screwed. If you're trading Manny to the Mets, get Beltran.

Sure, the Sox get some huge financial flexibility, but really hurt this year's team.

Oh, and Manny gets 10-5 rights this offseason, so that's why if he's going to be dealt, it has to be now.

If the Sox are picking up any of Manny's contract, then this deal is even worse.

I don't see it happening as presently constituted.


I'm unfamiliar with 10-5 rights. Is it a no-trade clause? Because if he wants to be out of Boston, why would it matter if he's dealt now or then? Unless you think he'll change his mind, which is always a possibility with that clown.
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