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Postby Secret Avatar » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:19 pm

Surprising the overwhelming consensus is the Rocket for NL. I actually think Carpenter is more likely to win at this point, with his huge win total, nearly as ridiculous stats, and a team that will go deep in the playoffs if not win the WS. Plus, the fact that Rocket won it last year -- and in a year that RJ was clearly the better pitcher, but didn't rack up the wins -- cuts against him winning again, IMO.

For the AL, I gotta go with Halladay (if he comes back soon and takes over where he left off), Buerhle, or Patterson. RJ could sneak in there too, if he has a huge second half.

Still, I think there is a lot of baseball left and anything can happen.
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Postby evil_beaver_dp » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:09 pm

Yoda wrote:Mind boggling why anyone would pick someone other tahn Clemens for NL. I don't really think it's even close who the best pitcher has been in the NL so far.

As for AL, I think it's too wide open. You can make an argument for several different pitchers. It will really depend on who performs best down the stretch. My money is on RJ as he always seems to put up good numbers in September.


Carpenter & Oswalt have both been nearly as dominant as Clemens and each have 6 more wins than Clemens. I personally don't think the W's mean anything, but the question was not "who do you think SHOULD win the Cy Young awards" but "who do you think WILL win the Cy Young awards?" So, I'd have to go with Carpenter in the NL. He's put up ridiculous numbers, started the All-Star game, is on one of the best teams in baseball, and has the comeback story that sportswriters salivate over.

In the AL, I think it is wide open, but Halladay should probably still be the front runner with strong consideration for Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Mariano Rivera, Rich Harden, and K-Rod.
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Postby mweir145 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:07 am

I'm still going to say Halladay.

He is coming back next week, and he should start right where he left off..
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Postby daullaz » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:16 am

I'm thinking Clemens and Buerhle right now. I don't think Roy is going to be in top form for a while after he comes off the DL, and by the time he rounds back into shape, he will be too far behind. I see Garland coming back down to Earth and Buerhle leading that team to the best record in the AL at the end of the season. Clemens, right now, is an absolute lock.
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Postby prodpaul » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:49 am

I say Halladay in the AL and I will vote Carpenter in the NL.
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Postby ZAZ » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:45 pm

I'd just like to mention that I drafted Jon Lieber and he will NOT be winning the award this year....or any year. I think I actually drafted him ahead of Clemens too :~(
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:55 pm

ZAZ wrote:I'd just like to mention that I drafted Jon Lieber and he will NOT be winning the award this year....or any year. I think I actually drafted him ahead of Clemens too :~(


8-o What the--

My friend took Pavano ahead of Clemens and I wound up taking Roger, but Lieber??!?!?!?!? 8-o 8-o
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Postby nuggets » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:33 pm

Yoda wrote:Mind boggling why anyone would pick someone other tahn Clemens for NL. I don't really think it's even close who the best pitcher has been in the NL so far.

As for AL, I think it's too wide open. You can make an argument for several different pitchers. It will really depend on who performs best down the stretch. My money is on RJ as he always seems to put up good numbers in September.


Really? Because based on the past Carpenter would get the Cy due to the IP, Wins, K and 4 CG SHO (Clemens none).

IMO, Johan or Unit will win us over by the end.
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Postby Strasil42 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:09 pm

NL- Clemens or my boy Oswalt if clemens falters.

AL- Mo Rivera, unless a starter really steps up.
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Postby bleach168 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:55 pm

AL - Halladay.

NL - Clemens. About the only thing Carpenter has over Clemens is the 5 more wins. Carpenter only has 5 more IP and how well the Cardinals are performing should not factor into the equation (we're not talking about MVP). Down the stretch, I fully expect Clemens to outperform Carpenter anways so ultimately there won't be much debate. :-D
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