Has a pitcher ever been more consistent than this guy? I agrue no. His consecutive seasons w/ at least 15 Ws streak is AMAZING. 2nd best pitcher of this generation (behind Clemens). One of the top 10 of all time. Sure fire future HOFer.
Drunken Rhino wrote:Has a pitcher ever been more consistent than this guy? I agrue no. His consecutive seasons w/ at least 15 Ws streak is AMAZING. 2nd best pitcher of this generation (behind Clemens). One of the top 10 of all time. Sure fire future HOFer.
In all honesty, he's part of the reason I enjoy fantasy baseball so much. My first "team" was back in the strike shortened '94 season.
I mean look at this line.
GS W L CG SO IP HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
25 16 6 10 3 202.0 4 31 156 1.56 0.90 .207
He was the reason I won that "league". (It was actually a math class assignment back in the 8th grade...) Thank you very much for this obsession Greg.... you jerk.
He wasn't a superstar pitcher for very many years but that's not Maddux's claim to fame anyways. He goes out there quietly every 5th day and pitches a good baseball game. He keeps his team in almost every single game he pitches and is one of those guys that just find a way to win. The 15+ win streak is amazing...especially when you consider that his Atl and Chi teams did not have offenses that you'd put in the same ballpark with teams like the current NYY and Bos. He EARNED those 15 wins every year which makes it all the more impressive.
He's also brilliant when it comes to pitching. I hope that the Cubs keep him on as a pitching coach when he finally hangs up the spikes. Just listening to the few interviews with him that they've had on WGN in the past has taught me a ton about pitching...I can't even imagine what kind of influence he would have on young pitchers as a pitching coach.
300 wins and 3,000K's mean quite a bit to me as well.
Congrats and props to the Professor!
As to where he ranks all time, I smell a debate coming, so it will probably be some good reading.
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I don't think we can call him the greatest of all time b/c he didn't K enough hitters. But we can certainly call him the best control pitcher of all time. No doubt in my mind about that.
Drunken Rhino wrote:I don't think we can call him the greatest of all time b/c he didn't K enough hitters. But we can certainly call him the best control pitcher of all time. No doubt in my mind about that.
He is the best pitcher I have ever seen. Never had great "stuff", but the guy knows how to pitch. Can you imagine what he would have done if he threw a 96 mph fastball.
I recently watched Clemens pitch a 4 H, 2BB, 1 ER game at Coors! He's the best I've seen. (Stupid me, passed up the chance to go watch RJ's perfect game b/c I was tired... but that's besides the point.)
Don't get me wrong, I don't think any pitcher is smarter or could locate better in their prime, just doesn't quite make it to the top of the list of Greatest Pitcher Ever.
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by Drunken Rhino » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:06 pm 
