I'd agree. He may be fast but I've never seen him pegged as huge threat in the SB category. He'll contrbute there, I suspect, but not anywhere near Crawfordesque numbers.
I suppose I high balled him quite a bit when I threw Crawford out there but his future body type, his hiitting style, and his speed remind me a lot of Hot Carl. I'd say a good projection for him when he's fully acquainted to the majors is something like .295-.310, 25 HRs (tops), with 25-35 SB. RBI's obviously depending on where he hits in the order.
Atrophying Testicles wrote:I suppose I high balled him quite a bit when I threw Crawford out there but his future body type, his hiitting style, and his speed remind me a lot of Hot Carl. I'd say a good projection for him when he's fully acquainted to the majors is something like .295-.310, 25 HRs (tops), with 25-35 SB. RBI's obviously depending on where he hits in the order.
Not sure why you would only think he can hit 25 HR tops. He had 13 HR, 28 2B, 9 3B at AAA this year.
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Atrophying Testicles wrote:I suppose I high balled him quite a bit when I threw Crawford out there but his future body type, his hiitting style, and his speed remind me a lot of Hot Carl. I'd say a good projection for him when he's fully acquainted to the majors is something like .295-.310, 25 HRs (tops), with 25-35 SB. RBI's obviously depending on where he hits in the order.
Not sure why you would only think he can hit 25 HR tops. He had 13 HR, 28 2B, 9 3B at AAA this year.
I agree. Most everything I'd heard about Granderson prior to seeing him after being called up seems to have been underrated or he has just improved. That gap power and speed will serve him well in Comerica. This team really hasn't had a guy who can run like Granderson AND have power AND hit left handed. I'm not going to expect the rest of the season to necessarily go like his first several games, but I see no reason this guy shouldn't be playing CF for this team most everyday the remainder of the season.
Unless Curtis stumbles upon Pudge's old stash of Vitamins, he's not hitting 30+ HR's in that body. Not every player who hits 2B's and 3B's in AAA and shows good gap power turns a 13HR AAA season into a 30HR campaign in the majors because we assume some of his 2B's and 3B's will go over the fence when his body matures and he gains some more experience. He did have 21 HR's in a full campaign at AA the year before. I think projecting more than a 25HR season at the major league level is a bit on the open minded side... Who knows how he'll hit lefties at the major league level and if he'll ever "fill out his body" and turn those 2B's into Homers. He's an exciting player and has great potential but before we start throwing out Bobby Abreu comparisons let's see the kid at the major league level for a while.
Abreu did only hit in the teens in HR's in the minors but had a bigger frame and always had a bigger body/head and he's only hit 30 HR's twice (despite his pace right now to get to 40).
Sorry, those are really hard to read and didn't come out right...
Granderson had 3HR with 34RBI over 212 AB's in A Ball at Oneonta in 2002.
11HR and 51RBI over 476 AB's at A Ball Lakeland in 2003
21HR with 93RBI over 462 AB's at AA Erie in 2004.
This year he was at 13HR with 59RBI and .295 at AAA Toledo over 387 AB's before being called up.
Atrophying Testicles wrote:Unless Curtis stumbles upon Pudge's old stash of Vitamins, he's not hitting 30+ HR's in that body. Not every player who hits 2B's and 3B's in AAA and shows good gap power turns a 13HR AAA season into a 30HR campaign in the majors because we assume some of his 2B's and 3B's will go over the fence when his body matures and he gains some more experience.
Those 13 HRs are in a little bit more than half of a season. 28 doubles as well. Now, I'm not saying that with every guy doubles turn into HRs, but there are guys who are called "wiry" strong. Alfonso Soriano comes to mind. He doesn't look like a guy who should pack as much power as he does. Granderson is 6'1" 185lbs. Soriano 6'1" 180lbs.
Atrophying Testicles wrote:Sorry, those are really hard to read and didn't come out right...
Granderson had 3HR with 34RBI over 212 AB's in A Ball at Oneonta in 2002. 11HR and 51RBI over 476 AB's at A Ball Lakeland in 2003 21HR with 93RBI over 462 AB's at AA Erie in 2004. This year he was at 13HR with 59RBI and .295 at AAA Toledo over 387 AB's before being called up.
I'm not sure why you would compare him to Abreu. I also don't understand what Abreu's minor league numbers have anything to do with Granderson's power potential.
Granderson's extra base hit totals for 04 and 05 clearly shows that he has more than just a gap power. He is very young and based on his power numbers so far, he could easily hit 30 HRs if he continues the current path.
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Soriano is a great example, nice call. Only reason why I brought up Abreu is because other people have and I've heard it mentioned before that "Detroit hopes that he turns into a Bobby Abreu type" or something like that. I just don't see how this guy can easily hit 30HR's on his current path. I really don't. I think it's possible for him to do so but to say it's easily attainable is IMO, too optimistic at this point. He's an exciting player no doubt about it. Tigers have a great young team.
Bobby Higginson is a 5'11 195lb Lefty who hit 23HR 67RBI with 28 2B in 476 AB's at AAA Toledo in his final season there and only hit 30HR once in the majors at the height of the steroid era in 2000 after seasons of 14, 26, 27, 25, 12*(injury shortened). His projections were probably even higher than 30 when he broke in and he still only did it once. All I'm saying is guys don't hit 30 HR's easily.
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