The Jury wrote:Yoda wrote:Webster11 wrote:The Jury wrote:Webster11 wrote:Yoda wrote:zhutou wrote:Cleveland Steamers wrote:To say that Miggy Cabrera is right up there with Pujols isnt right. To say that Cabrera would be selected #1 in keeper drafts is actually quite funny.
how so? the kid is 22 and he's already having an mvp caliber season. please explain.
Pujols was slightly better than Cabrera was at the same age. But you certainly can't argue with Miggy's success this season. He's on fire and if he continues this pace, he's going to be a top 10 player at the end of the season. The fact that he is 3 years younger than Pujols makes him just as attractive in a keeper league IMO.
Thats debatable. Pujols showed much more consistency than Cabrera has at his age, but you've got to like the growth of Cabrera's stats.
<pre>Age 20 - Cabrera - 314 ab, 39 runs, 12 hr, 62 rbi, .268 avg
Pujols - N/A
Age 21 - Cabrera - 603 ab, 101 runs, 33 hr, 112rbi, .294 avg
Pujols - 590ab, 112 runs, 37 runs, 130 rbi, .329 avg
Age 22 - Cabrera - 631 ab, 120 runs, 39 hr, 125 rbi, .350 avg
Pujols - 590 ab, 118 runs, 34 hr, 127 rbi, .314 avg </pre>
Theres not enough data to make an accurate comparison, but the belief that Pujols was better than Cabrera was at the same age is not as clear cut as many might believe.
*Cabrera's age 22 stats are projected.
It's a weak comparison anyways - a comparison of the wrong numbers.
RBI and runs are quite team dependant. Manny's 20 (approx.) grand slams are a fun feat but in reality they are no more skillful than 20 of his solo shots. I don't mean to be a saberguru but the individual stats are what we need to look at.
Arent we talking about Fantasy here? I think using the standard roto categories is good enough for making a fantasy comparison
Trust me. I know what I'm saying. Pujols was slightly better than Miggy at the same age. He had much better plate discipline but Miggy is clearly not that far behind.
I also don't believe Pujol's age. I think he is at least a couple of years older than his listed age but that is an entirely my opinion and not related to the topic on hand.
Well something to this nature is definitely getting into a baseball players vs. baseball player debate, which is much more than just a simple fantasy hitter comparison.
What are you talking about? This thread is about who would be a #1 pick in fantasy baseball in 06. Then the issue of keeper league was brought up. In a keeper format, if Cabrera ends the season based on the numbers he put up so far, he would be just as valuable as Pujols.