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Postby JTWood » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:54 pm

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- The video game industry on Wednesday changed to adults-only the rating of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," a best-selling title in which explicit sexual content can be unlocked with an Internet download.

The decision followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups.

Grand Theft Auto's producer, Rockstar Games, said it was now working on a new version of the game that would satisfy the original "M" for mature rating. It said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to continue selling the version currently on store shelves.

Rockstar's parent, Take Two Interactive, also admitted for the first time Wednesday that the sex scenes had been built into the retail game -- not just the PC version but also those written for Xbox and PlayStation2 consoles.

Company officials had previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes to the game, last year's best seller in consoles.

"There is sex content in the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press. "The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc."

Rating change will hurt company

The sex scenes, inserted in a game whose main character seeks bloody vengeance on gang-filled streets while pickup scantily clad women, had prompted outrage from parent's groups and politicians including Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York.

In a statement, the president of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player."

But ESRB chief Patricia Vance also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."

Many retailers sell "M" rated games, which "may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older," according to the rating board, but won't sell "AO"-labeled games at all.

Take-Two also said Wednesday that it expects to suffer financially. It lowered its expectations for its current quarter and fiscal year to set aside funds for returns of the games, and figured that net sales could decrease by more than $50 million during the quarter ending July 31.

Shares of Take-Two rose 12 cents to close at $27.07 on the Nasdaq, but later dropped $3.07, or 11.3 percent, in after-hours activity.

The ratings change was vindication for Patrick Wildenbourg, the Dutch programmer who developed and freely distributed the modification that unlocked the controversial content in the game's PC version.

Such "mods" are wildly popular in the hardcore gaming community and -- authorized or not -- exploit the medium's interactive nature to extend the playing life of many popular titles.

Group calls for recall, refunds

Take-Two president Paul Eibeler stressed in a statement that only an unauthorized "mod" makes the sex scenes available, and said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."

That prompted an angry reaction from David Walsh, founder of the National Institute on the Media and the Family, a Minneapolis-based group that monitors the industry.

Walsh criticized Rockstar for what he called a "carefully worded statement" that leaves the impression that "modders" are responsible for the content. "They did not take responsibility for the fact that this code was created within their company and placed on disks and shipped to responsible retailers."

The Parents Television Council, another group that monitors sex and violence in the media, said it was pleased with the rating switch but called on Rockstar to voluntarily recall the game and offer refunds to anyone who purchased it.

"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"

The ESRB was formed 11 years ago amid congressional pressure to crack down on violent video games. The board now issues ratings for more than 1,000 game titles each year.

Game makers must submit a lengthy form describing the most extreme content, and turn over visual samples and scripted dialogue as each game nears the final stages of development.
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Postby JTWood » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm

I'll keep my reasoning to myself, but I'm glad to hear this.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:58 pm

This sucks!!!!!!!!!

Was it originally Teen?

How old can you buy Teen game?
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:00 pm

hongfu_chen wrote:This sucks!!!!!!!!!

Was it originally Teen?

How old can you buy Teen game?


I'm pretty sure it was rated "mature" before they changed it to this.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:01 pm

MMoNeY24 wrote:
hongfu_chen wrote:This sucks!!!!!!!!!

Was it originally Teen?

How old can you buy Teen game?


I'm pretty sure it was rated "mature" before they changed it to this.


How old is mature? 17?
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:03 pm

hongfu_chen wrote:
MMoNeY24 wrote:
hongfu_chen wrote:This sucks!!!!!!!!!

Was it originally Teen?

How old can you buy Teen game?


I'm pretty sure it was rated "mature" before they changed it to this.


How old is mature? 17?


Yeah, you can buy them at 17. I don't want to say most, but from what I know you can get it if you're younger than that in most places where they don't care.
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Postby pokerplaya » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:03 pm

hongfu_chen wrote:
MMoNeY24 wrote:
hongfu_chen wrote:This sucks!!!!!!!!!

Was it originally Teen?

How old can you buy Teen game?


I'm pretty sure it was rated "mature" before they changed it to this.


How old is mature? 17?


Yes, I believe it is 17+ for Mature. Adults only would be 18 plus, I suppose.
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Postby WharfRat » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:04 pm

JTWood wrote:I'll keep my reasoning to myself, but I'm glad to hear this.


Ditto. ;-D

I wonder how seriously game retailers take the ratings.
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Postby bigh0rt » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:06 pm

Same here. Glad to see this. My students never shut up about this game, and not a one of them is 17 yet.
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Postby Kingctb27 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:10 pm

JTWood wrote:I'll keep my reasoning to myself, but I'm glad to hear this.

Heh, your probably right. That game is extremely graphic and could be a bad influence on someone younger. I, myself have the game and I thought it was great. I'll probably be 18 by the time the next one comes out, so, I could care less about this. But, i will be keeping my copy of the game. }:-) ;-)
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