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Postby Lofunzo » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:54 pm

I would assume that you could have found out who won in 2003 if you looked for it but no one really did back then. This has taken off so much that you really can't avoid it.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:09 am

Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.
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Postby Nomar4prez » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:23 am

Mercer Boy wrote:Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.


Anybody that takes poker seriously probably knows who won. Maybe the average veiwers wouldn't like to know, but to me it doesn't matter. I'm not watching it to see who wins. I'm watching to watch the poker involved. It'd be even more awesome if there was a 24 hour poker channel during the WSOP that showed the action for the ENTIRE tournament. Every hand.
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Postby beltrans_boy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:01 am

Nomar4prez wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.


Anybody that takes poker seriously probably knows who won. Maybe the average veiwers wouldn't like to know, but to me it doesn't matter. I'm not watching it to see who wins. I'm watching to watch the poker involved. It'd be even more awesome if there was a 24 hour poker channel during the WSOP that showed the action for the ENTIRE tournament. Every hand.


I agree. Nobody watches that show to see who wins it. They watch it to see how the hands were played. I still don't know who won it in 2005, and I don't really care. I'm going to watch the WSOP to watch the best poker players in the world do their thing...
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Postby fezzik » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:45 am

beltrans_boy wrote:
Nomar4prez wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.


Anybody that takes poker seriously probably knows who won. Maybe the average veiwers wouldn't like to know, but to me it doesn't matter. I'm not watching it to see who wins. I'm watching to watch the poker involved. It'd be even more awesome if there was a 24 hour poker channel during the WSOP that showed the action for the ENTIRE tournament. Every hand.


I agree. Nobody watches that show to see who wins it. They watch it to see how the hands were played. I still don't know who won it in 2005, and I don't really care. I'm going to watch the WSOP to watch the best poker players in the world do their thing...





That's a pretty ridiculous statement, seeing as how many of the people who posted in this thread already stated they watch it for that reason...unless you consider them "nobody" :-? .

Anyway, I watch it for both the aforementioned reasons...the play and to see who comes out on top. I feel ESPN has spoiled part of the experience for me, and I will write them feedback to let them know that they pissed me off. <img src=/forums/images/smiles/kiss.gif> I hope they don't do it next year.

As a semiserious fan, I doubt I'll end up watching as much as I did last year. :-t
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Postby beltrans_boy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:05 am

fezzik wrote:
beltrans_boy wrote:
Nomar4prez wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.


Anybody that takes poker seriously probably knows who won. Maybe the average veiwers wouldn't like to know, but to me it doesn't matter. I'm not watching it to see who wins. I'm watching to watch the poker involved. It'd be even more awesome if there was a 24 hour poker channel during the WSOP that showed the action for the ENTIRE tournament. Every hand.


I agree. Nobody watches that show to see who wins it. They watch it to see how the hands were played. I still don't know who won it in 2005, and I don't really care. I'm going to watch the WSOP to watch the best poker players in the world do their thing...





That's a pretty ridiculous statement, seeing as how many of the people who posted in this thread already stated they watch it for that reason...unless you consider them "nobody" :-? .

Anyway, I watch it for both the aforementioned reasons...the play and to see who comes out on top. I feel ESPN has spoiled part of the experience for me, and I will write them feedback to let them know that they pissed me off. <img src=/forums/images/smiles/kiss.gif> I hope they don't do it next year.

As a semiserious fan, I doubt I'll end up watching as much as I did last year. :-t

So I tend to exaggerate a little (a lot). Sue me.

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Postby Madison » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:14 am

Are they not supposed to report the news of who won?

They did the same thing last year with Raymer's win. This isn't new, and it's part of their jobs, so I don't see the problem.

Even local television news here in Ft. Worth told us who won the $7.5 million dollars at the World Series this year. I've seen articles and news about the final table in more places than I can count. It's been everywhere. ESPN would look awful foolish to be the only ones not reporting who won. Even more so when they are the ones who had the exclusive rights to tape and air it.

The WSOP telecasts start Tuesday on ESPN and they will do what they did last year with it (lead in with the smaller events). Here's a link for the schedule:

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/broadcast.asp

The main event doesn't even start to air until October 11th, and the final episode where someone wins (I won't ruin it for those who don't already know), will be aired November 15th.

With that kind of lag, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that ESPN reported the news like they are supposed to do.

What are these complaint letters going to say, anyway?

"Don't report the news!"

"You guys are bad, bad, men. You reported the news! How dare you!?"

I do see some of the point about not wanting to know who wins, but getting upset with ESPN for reporting the news, like they are supposed to do, doesn't really make sense. ;-)
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Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:51 am

Mercer Boy wrote:Sure they can avoid it...I'd say poker was pretty big last year, and I didn't hear a word about who won until I saw it on ESPN.

I didn't see a story on who won it on Yahoo! Sports News on My Yahoo, nor have I seen it on any other news site (OK, I don't go to a lot of places, but I doubt they made a big deal of it). The only place that said who won was ESPNEWS and then SportsCenter.

Had they just kept their big mouths shut, I would bet that 95% of their possible viewing audience would have no clue who won the thing until the shows aired...just like every other year before that.


I never said they couldn't avoid it. I didn't know who won last year until I saw it but I also didn't look. I didn't search the web or check a thread at this site. Did anyone even post here who won last year before it aired?? I don't think so.
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Postby Madison » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 am

Lofunzo wrote:Did anyone even post here who won last year before it aired?? I don't think so.


Not to disagree, but it's right here and said long before it got televised:

http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=65600&highlight=raymer

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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 am

Nomar4prez wrote:I'm not watching it to see who wins. I'm watching to watch the poker involved.
That pretty much sums up my feelings too.
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