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Postby evil_beaver_dp » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:21 am

To me, IP is a great stat to keep track of for pitchers. What's an IP? It's 3 outs. What's a pitcher's job? Get outs without giving up runs. One way to make ERA non-redundant and include ER or IP would be to simply not use ERA but use both ER and IP instead. I don't know if I'd ever do it that way, but it's an idea to consider.
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Postby evil_beaver_dp » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:27 am

"Come on...we all know what Adam Dunn's ultimate goal is. To be the first member of the 50/50/50 club.

50 Hrs/50 Rbis/50 Runs.


He must be very good at that since he already has 59 runs.


You guys aren't very good at taking jokes are you? It used to be a big joke about Dunn."

I thought it was a pretty good joke. But I don't think that it's Adam Dunn's goal. It's seems more like Jerry Narron's goal. Why does he bat Dunn 6'th behind Joe Randa?!

The stupid things baseball managers do frustrates me like nothing else. I know my fantasy team would be a little better if Adam Dunn and David Wright were handled better by their managers.
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Postby wrveres » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:26 am

evil_beaver_dp wrote:"Come on...we all know what Adam Dunn's ultimate goal is. To be the first member of the 50/50/50 club.

50 Hrs/50 Rbis/50 Runs.



thats been a running joke around here for a long time ..

Adam Dunns' Career
BA with RISP ...

.210 ..


anybody want to guess as to what it is this year? ;-7
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Postby Philly22 » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:51 am

wrveres wrote:
evil_beaver_dp wrote:"Come on...we all know what Adam Dunn's ultimate goal is. To be the first member of the 50/50/50 club.

50 Hrs/50 Rbis/50 Runs.



thats been a running joke around here for a long time ..

Adam Dunns' Career
BA with RISP ...

.210 ..


anybody want to guess as to what it is this year? ;-7


I can't sense any sarcasm there but you do know his OPS with RISP is .981 ;-)
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Postby wrveres » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:11 am

Philly22 wrote:
wrveres wrote:
evil_beaver_dp wrote:"Come on...we all know what Adam Dunn's ultimate goal is. To be the first member of the 50/50/50 club.

50 Hrs/50 Rbis/50 Runs.



thats been a running joke around here for a long time ..

Adam Dunns' Career
BA with RISP ...

.210 ..


anybody want to guess as to what it is this year? ;-7


I can't sense any sarcasm there but you do know his OPS with RISP is .981 ;-)


oh there was no sarcasm.
The dude is Roto Cancer.


But lets look at that shall we..

We know he is a .210 hitter with RISP.
and we know that he just hit his first sacrafice fly in two years ...

so what a .981 OPS with RISP tells me offhand, is that if there is a man standing on second base, I can pretty much count on Adam Dunn doing nothing but get a walk or strike out. Heck its been that way through out his carreer, but let me go and check ..


Yep ...
65 /ab's
14/H
27/BB
21/K ..



Thanks Adam... You are a big help to the team. ;-D ;-D
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Postby wrveres » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:29 am

:-D :-D

lol

Okay, some of you around here know my feelings on Adam. I am not going to rehash them here and now, but I just did my third annual Adam Dunn roster check and here goes ...

current ranking of the Adam Dunn owner in my 7 Leagues.

2nd (H2H OPS League)
5th (H2H)
9th (H2H)
10th (roto)
10th (roto)
13th (roto)
and dead last, and I do mean Dead! .... 12th place .. (roto)

Adam is a Cancer! :-]
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Postby beltrans_boy » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:44 am

wrveres wrote::-D :-D

lol

Okay, some of you around here know my feelings on Adam. I am not going to rehash them here and now, but I just did my third annual Adam Dunn roster check and here goes ...

current ranking of the Adam Dunn owner in my 7 Leagues.

2nd (H2H OPS League)
5th (H2H)
9th (H2H)
10th (roto)
10th (roto)
13th (roto)
and dead last, and I do mean Dead! .... 12th place .. (roto)

Adam is a Cancer! :-]

As far as fantasy baseball goes, you're right, but I don't think you can argue his value to a real baseball team.
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Postby wrveres » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:59 am

beltrans_boy wrote:
wrveres wrote::-D :-D

lol

Okay, some of you around here know my feelings on Adam. I am not going to rehash them here and now, but I just did my third annual Adam Dunn roster check and here goes ...

current ranking of the Adam Dunn owner in my 7 Leagues.

2nd (H2H OPS League)
5th (H2H)
9th (H2H)
10th (roto)
10th (roto)
13th (roto)
and dead last, and I do mean Dead! .... 12th place .. (roto)

Adam is a Cancer! :-]

As far as fantasy baseball goes, you're right, but I don't think you can argue his value to a real baseball team.


agreed ..
Cincy is second in the league as far as runs scored, right on St Louis' heels. I think they are top two or three in the league for team OPS too, but imagine how much better Cincy would be if Adam actually hit the ball. ;-D
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Postby Members Only Jackets » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:39 am

This sort of cancer can't be that bad considering he'll hit near 50 HR's and over 100 RBI's. Maybe it's a low grade cancer that can be scooped out and removed for good.
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Postby Dice » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:54 am

evil_beaver_dp wrote:Quoting Dice: "I've only ever played with these offensive categories: Total Bases, OBP, SB, R, RBI. The randomness of HR's and the ignoring of BB would ignore me."

I don't quite understand why you mention that the "randomness" of HRs would bother you but you have no problem with RBI as a category. RBI is probably the most unpredictable of all these categories and most dependent upon an individual's teammates rather than the individual.


RBI doesn't bother me. It's not quite indicative of a player's talent as a player in a great lineup will get more than the same player in a bad lineup, but it is predictable.

HR as one of the five standard categories bothers me as it ignores extra base hits. AVG as one of the five standard categories bothers me as it ignores walks.

SB kind of bothers me. I wish there was a better measure of speed. I'd use SB-CS as one of the five standard categories if it were an option.
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