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Postby AT » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:26 pm

Steve-o wrote:1997: Sheffield's four-year-old Marlins become the youngest team to win a World Series, beating Cleveland in seven games. Shortly thereafter, financially-strapped team owner Wayne Huzienga sells most of his top players, including Sheffield, who ends up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers. After the season, he meets gospel singer DeLeon Richards in a hotel lobby, and marries her one year later.


2004: The NY Post produces allegations that DeLeon Richards made sex tapes with her ex boyfriend rapper R Kelly in which R Kelly basically uses her as his own personal urinal.

You just can't get stuff like that in the Times these days.
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Postby bigh0rt » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:27 pm

StlSluggers wrote:At the start of the year, I considered Sheffield to be one of the few guys in baseball whom I held in high regard.


Problem Number Uno :-)

I'd rather this type of thread than one linking him to steroids. :-B
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Postby nsulham » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:34 pm

Atrophying Testicles wrote:
Steve-o wrote:1997: Sheffield's four-year-old Marlins become the youngest team to win a World Series, beating Cleveland in seven games. Shortly thereafter, financially-strapped team owner Wayne Huzienga sells most of his top players, including Sheffield, who ends up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers. After the season, he meets gospel singer DeLeon Richards in a hotel lobby, and marries her one year later.


2004: The NY Post produces allegations that DeLeon Richards made sex tapes with her ex boyfriend rapper R Kelly in which R Kelly basically uses her as his own personal urinal.

You just can't get stuff like that in the Times these days.


And without this we wouldn't have the outstanding Piss On You skit from Chappelle ;-D

"Only thing that makes my life complete is when I turn your face into a toilet seat"

:-b :-b :-b
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Postby Matthias » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:35 pm

Atrophying Testicles wrote:
Steve-o wrote:1997: Sheffield's four-year-old Marlins become the youngest team to win a World Series, beating Cleveland in seven games. Shortly thereafter, financially-strapped team owner Wayne Huzienga sells most of his top players, including Sheffield, who ends up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers. After the season, he meets gospel singer DeLeon Richards in a hotel lobby, and marries her one year later.


2004: The NY Post produces allegations that DeLeon Richards made sex tapes with her ex boyfriend rapper R Kelly in which R Kelly basically uses her as his own personal urinal.

You just can't get stuff like that in the Times these days.


heh. well, there's a lot of things that you get in the post that you can't get anywhere else, nowadays ("post exclusive: kerry chooses gephart as running mate" anyone?).

sheff isn't warm. he isn't cuddly. but he hits that ball like it did him a personal affront every time he's at bat. he gets professional respect: no less, and certainly no more.
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Postby davidmarver » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:59 pm

1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:01 pm

davidmarver wrote:
1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

:-)


Sheffield helped Florida win a World Series though. What did Hoffman help San Diego do?
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Postby davidmarver » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:04 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
davidmarver wrote:
1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

:-)


Sheffield helped Florida win a World Series though. What did Hoffman help San Diego do?

400+ saves with the best save % of all-time (mimimum of 175 saves) has never done anything to help his team ;-7 . Hoffman helped the Padres more than Sheffield ever could have because Shef never would have lasted here. Besides, Hoffman is a soon-to-be HOFer and a team/city icon. Chalk one up for the Pad squad on that trade ;-D .
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:08 pm

davidmarver wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
davidmarver wrote:
1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

:-)


Sheffield helped Florida win a World Series though. What did Hoffman help San Diego do?

400+ saves with the best save % of all-time (mimimum of 175 saves) has never done anything to help his team ;-7 . Hoffman helped the Padres more than Sheffield ever could have because Shef never would have lasted here. Besides, Hoffman is a soon-to-be HOFer and a team/city icon. Chalk one up for the Pad squad on that trade ;-D .


No offense, but with these trades, you have to be one of the biggest homers on these boards.

Who gives a crap how many saves Hoffman has? The point of the game of baseball is not to get saves. It's to win championships. The Florida Marlins won a championship as a result of that trade. The San Diego Padres got a tremendous player. That player didn't give them a World Series title though. In fact, he coughed up the chance to get one to the Yankees in '98.

It's fine to say you're glad you did the trade because you don't believe Sheff would've helped San Diego. To say that the trade must be chalked up for the Padres? One of the bigger homer statements I've ever seen.
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Postby davidmarver » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:14 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
davidmarver wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
davidmarver wrote:
1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

:-)


Sheffield helped Florida win a World Series though. What did Hoffman help San Diego do?

400+ saves with the best save % of all-time (mimimum of 175 saves) has never done anything to help his team ;-7 . Hoffman helped the Padres more than Sheffield ever could have because Shef never would have lasted here. Besides, Hoffman is a soon-to-be HOFer and a team/city icon. Chalk one up for the Pad squad on that trade ;-D .


No offense, but with these trades, you have to be one of the biggest homers on these boards.

Who gives a crap how many saves Hoffman has? The point of the game of baseball is not to get saves. It's to win championships. The Florida Marlins won a championship as a result of that trade. The San Diego Padres got a tremendous player. That player didn't give them a World Series title though. In fact, he coughed up the chance to get one to the Yankees in '98.

It's fine to say you're glad you did the trade because you don't believe Sheff would've helped San Diego. To say that the trade must be chalked up for the Padres? One of the bigger homer statements I've ever seen.

The Padres traded Sheffield because of $...they couldn't pay him that much. Besides, Sheffield never lasts anywhere so there would have been very little time for the Padres to have won with Sheffield, which I'm doubting would have happened since his eventual replacement on Padres was MVP Ken Caminiti. Sheffield couldn't have helped the Padres because he wouldn't have been around for too long.

Lets face it, the Padres had no chance of winning the 1998 World Series. That Yankees team was one of the best ever and regardless of how close the Padres were to winning games 1 & 3 everyone knew it wasn't going to happen.

Hoffman has helped the Padres more than Sheffield could have helped the Padres. That, by definition, is a good trade.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:20 pm

dm, I never said it was a bad trade for the Padres. Believe it or not, there's such thing as a trade benefitting both teams. You don't have to have a clear cut winner.

But you are deeming the Padres the winner of that trade by writing "Chalk one up for the Pad Squad on that trade ;-D ".

Just because the trade was good for you doesn't mean it wasn't good for the Marlins. The Marlins got a championship out of that deal. To say that the Padres "won" that deal, is insane.
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