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Postby blankman » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:42 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
blankman wrote:Do we really need yet another thread about his comments?

I think everyone's said all they need to say about him already.

Really? Because I've only seen random comments in other threads. I haven't really seen a thread devoted solely to him (seriously). If there are 14 others, I apologize. I just didn't see one handy where I could chime in at, so I thought I'd start my own.


I started one in the Yankees forum but that's it. I would've put it here but I didn't want to catch flak for starting more Yankee threads.

I should have checked there. I never really read any of the team forums other than the Cards'.


Yup. Yankee forum has it.
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Postby socceryank » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:51 pm

I am a Yanks fan, so obviously I like Sheff for what he does on the field. As a person, yes his is a jerk. But I do think a lot of the irritating things he says is simply because he is not a very smart man. If you listen to him talk, he doesn't come across as very intelligent. As a result, I don't think he can discuss things in a more acceptable manner.

To be honest, I wouldn't blame any MLB player from any country if they didn't participate; too much injury risk, and out of respect for their clubs. And I agree that Sheff meant it as he gets paid to play in MLB, not that he wouldn't play in the World Cup because he won't get paid for it.
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Postby AT » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:54 pm

Sheff's a Mercenary plain and simple. Always has been, always will be. You want him? Make him happy and he'll put up huge numbers. If he's not happy, you might as well get rid of him. That may sound brash but that's the way it is with him. He's like an employee who gets a great salary and should be working hard for it but will always want to be in ideal working conditions to perform to his potential. There are lots of people in the world like that and Sheff is one of them in baseball. Apparently his teammates love him, at least recently. I heard Arroyo say on the radio yesterday that Olerud was raving to him that Sheff was one of the best teammates he'd ever had.
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Postby Steve-o » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:54 pm

Here is a pretty good profile...

1989: In his second season as a Brewer, Sheffield is the Opening Day starter at shortstop - his favorite position. But after missing games due to injuries, he loses his starting shortstop position to Bill Spiers, and upon returning, is asked to play third base (which doesn't sit well with the 20-year-old). Sheffield considers the Spiers promotion "race-related" (Spiers is white) and talks to the press about it. He also criticizes his team's own pitchers for not retaliating against other clubs' pitchers who throw inside to him.

1991: Sheffield hits. 294 with 67 RBIs in 487 at-bats for Milwaukee: his best season up to this point.

1992: Sheffield is traded to the San Diego Padres for three prospects. He tells San Diego reporters that he "feels like he's out of prison" now that he's out of Milwaukee. Now playing in the National League, Sheffield faces Gooden (a pitcher for the NY Mets) for the first time, and goes 1-for-3. Sheff would finish '92 with career bests in average (.330), homers (33) and RBIs (100), but the Padres struuggle on the field and suffer financial problems.

1993: Money plays a part in Sheffield being traded to the Florida Marlins, an expansion team. Sheff is dealt for a minor-league pitcher named Trevor Hoffman, who would become an All-Star closer for the Padres.

1995: Just a few days after the season, Sheffield is grazed by a bullet while driving in Belmont Heights. People wonder if the shooting is the result of Sheffield's questionable friend selection.

1997: Sheffield's four-year-old Marlins become the youngest team to win a World Series, beating Cleveland in seven games. Shortly thereafter, financially-strapped team owner Wayne Huzienga sells most of his top players, including Sheffield, who ends up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers. After the season, he meets gospel singer DeLeon Richards in a hotel lobby, and marries her one year later.

2000-2001: Gary complains that the Dodgers are spending their money unwisely, and tells team management he wants to be traded. He goes to the press and insults teammates, including pitchers Kevin Brown and Darren Drefoirt. On Brown: "They're paying Brownie $15 million a year until he's 41." On Dreifort: "They just gave Dreifort $55 million when he's only won 39 games in his career."

2002: Sheffield joins the Atlanta Braves, and tells the press "he wants to go to the Hall of Fame as a Brave." He hits 25 homers, drives in 87 runs and bats .307 (his worst season in three years).

2004: Sheffield signs with the New York Yankees, joining a team of superstars led by Derek jeter, Japanese legend Hideki Matsui, and another newcomer - Alex Rodriguez. During the season, Sheffield's name surfaces in a steroids scandal involving a California lab, San Francisco superstar Barry Bonds, and other players. That is followed by a videotape sex scandal involving his wife, singer R Kelly, another woman and a $20,000 extortion attempt by a self-proclaimed minister.

2005: Sheffield, considered a clubhouse leader in his first year with the Yanks, starts Spring Training '05 on the wrong foot by first calling teammate Jason Giambi a "crybaby," and then telling the media he wants out of New York when his contracts expires after the '06 season.


http://baseball.about.com/od/2004season ... oubles.htm


also the intentional error thing:

According to a post at Bronx Banter, the Sheffield quote appeared in the Los Angeles Times on September 1, 1992. About his time in Milwaukee, Sheffield said:

The Brewers brought out the hate in me. I was a crazy man. ... I hated everything about the place. If the official scorer gave me an error, I didn't think was an error, I'd say, 'OK, here's a real error,' and I'd throw the next ball into the stands on purpose.


Needless to say, as Brewer Fan, I have always hated him.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:59 pm

2005: Sheffield, considered a clubhouse leader in his first year with the Yanks, starts Spring Training '05 on the wrong foot by first calling teammate Jason Giambi a "crybaby," and then telling the media he wants out of New York when his contracts expires after the '06 season.


When the hell did that happen?
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Postby RugbyD » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:59 pm

I fully respect the essence of what he said, but he could've done a better job laying it out. Given his past health problems, he's smart to not take on additional risk if he's not being compensated for it. He's also doing the right thing by not playing for notoriety's sake and half-assing it to make sure he doesn't get hurt.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:04 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
2005: Sheffield, considered a clubhouse leader in his first year with the Yanks, starts Spring Training '05 on the wrong foot by first calling teammate Jason Giambi a "crybaby," and then telling the media he wants out of New York when his contracts expires after the '06 season.


When the hell did that happen?


Yeah, I don't remember that at all. :-?
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Postby WharfRat » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:15 pm

How much respect did people really have for Sheff to begin with? He's always been something of a mercenary and a problem-child. I'm glad he's performed as a Yankee, and it's easy to root for someone with his prodigious talent, but I also have never had the respect for him they way I do for guys like Jeter, Varitek, Bagwell, and other guys who want to win for winning's sake. I'm just glad there are guys like D-Train who do care about this sort of thing.
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Postby nsulham » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:15 pm

Wow nice find Steve-O. If that stuff is indeed true it's a shame. The lack of class in some of those statements is just appalling :-t :-P
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Postby HAC Wolves » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:15 pm

hes an idiot is all i can say

He could have just said " I do not want to risk injury and therefore will decline my invitation to the WBC." He doesnt have to bring the money into it because god knows he doesnt have enough of that already. And also his job is to play a game i really dont think he has any soapbox to stand on with his my season is when im paid. If it was to avoid injury then sure because last year he was injured and im sure he doesnt want to be injured again at the start of next year.

As for the trade comments that was just him trying to control the situation and thus forcing the yankees farther down the tubes while making it so that they could not help themselves out by getting Bernie out of Centerfield
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