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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:58 pm

If everyone's playing careers ended today, who is in?

AL East
Boston - Manny. Schilling is on the bubble.
NY - Jeter, A-Rod, Rivera, and Johnson. Shef is on the bubble.
Baltimore - Sosa and Palmerio
Toronto - no one
TB - no one

AL Central
ChiSox - Frank Thomas.
Twins - No one
Royals - No one
Cleveland - No one
Tigers - Pudge

Al West
Angels - Vlad
Texas - No one
A's - No one
Seattle - He doesn't have the MLB service yet but I bet Ichiro would get in anyway.

NL East
Mets - Pedro and Piazza. Glavine on the bubble.
Nats - No one
Marlins - No one
Braves - Smoltz, Chipper
Philles - No one

NL Central
Cards - Walker is on the bubble.
Cubs - Maddux
Houston - Clemens, Bagwell, Biggio
Brewers - No one
Reds - Griffey
Pirates - No one

NL West
Rockies - Helton
D-Backs - No one
SF - Bonds
SD - No one
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Re: Current HOF players

Postby beltrans_boy » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:05 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:If everyone's playing careers ended today, who is in?

AL East
Boston - Manny. Schilling is on the bubble.
NY - Jeter, A-Rod, Rivera, and Johnson. Shef is on the bubble.
Baltimore - Sosa and Palmerio
Toronto - no one
TB - no one

AL Central
ChiSox - Frank Thomas.
Twins - No one
Royals - No one
Cleveland - No one
Tigers - Pudge

Al West
Angels - Vlad
Texas - No one
A's - No one
Seattle - He doesn't have the MLB service yet but I bet Ichiro would get in anyway.

NL East
Mets - Pedro and Piazza. Glavine on the bubble.
Nats - No one
Marlins - No one
Braves - Smoltz, Chipper
Philles - No one

NL Central
Cards - Walker is on the bubble.
Cubs - Maddux
Houston - Clemens, Bagwell, Biggio
Brewers - No one
Reds - Griffey
Pirates - No one

NL West
Rockies - Helton
D-Backs - No one
SF - Bonds
SD - No one


These guys are locks:

Biggio
Griffey
Clemens
Bagwell
Maddux
Manny
Pedro
Piazza
Johnson
Schilling
Pudge
Thomas
Rivera
Smoltz
Bonds
Palmeiro
Sosa

Oh, and by the way, it's good to see that you left out the Dodgers... :-P Of course, I think Kent still has something to prove before he becomes a lock.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:07 pm

Trevor Hoffman is on the bubble
If Pujols died in a plane crash they would probably put him in
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Re: Current HOF players

Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:13 pm

beltrans_boy wrote:Oh, and by the way, it's good to see that you left out the Dodgers... :-P Of course, I think Kent still has something to prove before he becomes a lock.
I knew I would forget someone. At least it wasn't an important team :-D
Kent is on the bubble IMO.
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Re: Current HOF players

Postby The Kavorka » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 pm

[/quote]I think Kent still has something to prove before he becomes a lock.[/quote]


Jeff Kent has the most HR's by a 2B in the history of the game.

No doubt a HOF even if he quit the game today.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:20 pm

The Kavorka wrote:
I think Kent still has something to prove before he becomes a lock.[/quote]


Jeff Kent has the most HR's by a 2B in the history of the game.

No doubt a HOF even if he quit the game today.[/quote]

I'm not sure how they do it but Baseball Reference has a forumla for determining how likely it is that a player gets into the HOF. If you score over 100 you are a likely HOFer - Kent scores 89

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kentje01.shtml

at the bottom of the page.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:29 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:If everyone's playing careers ended today, who is in?

AL East
Boston - Manny. Schilling is on the bubble.
NY - Jeter, A-Rod, Rivera, and Johnson. Shef is on the bubble.
Baltimore - Sosa and Palmerio
Toronto - no one
TB - no one

AL Central
ChiSox - Frank Thomas.
Twins - No one
Royals - No one
Cleveland - No one
Tigers - Pudge

Al West
Angels - Vlad
Texas - No one
A's - No one
Seattle - He doesn't have the MLB service yet but I bet Ichiro would get in anyway.

NL East
Mets - Pedro and Piazza. Glavine on the bubble.
Nats - No one
Marlins - No one
Braves - Smoltz, Chipper
Philles - No one

NL Central
Cards - Walker is on the bubble.
Cubs - Maddux
Houston - Clemens, Bagwell, Biggio
Brewers - No one
Reds - Griffey
Pirates - No one

NL West
Rockies - Helton
D-Backs - No one
SF - Bonds
SD - No one


I disagree with Vlad, Ichiro, Chipper and Helton. They all have more to prove before they should be considered, IMO.

The rest should be in, plus Kent.
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Postby blankman » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:35 pm

Sheffield, Vlad, Ichiro, Biggio and Walker all have something to prove.

If it were decided today, none of them should go IMO.

If Sheffield hits 500 HR he'll get in. Otherwise I don't think he does.
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Postby blankman » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:40 pm

On the HOF monitor,

Bernie Williams is at 140, 19 ahead of Sheffield 8-o
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:45 pm

blankman wrote:On the HOF monitor,

Bernie Williams is at 140, 19 ahead of Sheffield 8-o


Here's why
6 points if they were the regular SS or C on a WS team, 5 points for 2B or CF, 3 for 3B, 2 for LF or RF, and 1 for 1B. I don't have the OF distribution, so I give 3 points for OF.

5 points if they were the regular SS or C on a League Championship (but not WS) team, 3 points for 2B or CF, 1 for 3B. I don't have the OF distribution, so I give 1 points for OF.

2 points if they were the regular SS or C on a Division Championship team (but not WS or LCS), 1 points for 2B, CF, or 3B. I don't have the OF distribution, so I give 1 points for OF.
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