Not even sure where to start with this one, so I'll just start at post #1 in the thread and work my way forward.
Matthias is right. It would be great to see everyone stop being overly sensitive, and stop searching out comments that could be considered "bashing" just to stir up trouble . Way too many simple comments or observations are turned into big old messes simply because someone overreacts or is overly sensitive about the team it's said about.
Eftda's right, Bud Selig is to blame for all of baseball's problems.
I'm with Trans, all this stupid bickering is tiresome and ridiculous.
This is not an Anti-Yankee board. Like I said, way too many things are blown way, way out of proportion.
Jeter has been better than Pods this year and deserves the nod over him for the All-Star game, in my opinion of course. Oh, and note that I have NOT read the 9 page thread about it......yet.
ALL teams take abuse here. It's just a difference in the way the team's fans handle the comments or abuse. Take my Rangers terrible pitching staff for example. It's mentioned all the time that we cannot pitch for beans. Guess what? It's true and there's no arguments over it because Ranger fans are aware that our pitching stinks. We (Ranger fans) don't start arguments, bicker, or fight about it, we just acknowledge it to be the simple truth. Not all team's fans are able to look at their own team's weaknesses and act accordingly, and here's a news flash.......There's not one perfect team out there! Every team in the major leagues has flaws or places that could be improved, and people are going to point it out, so accept that simple fact instead of whining about your team being bashed and life will be much easier.
Been kinda nice not to have the constant Bonds threads running around.
Agreed that Yankee fans do not have control over the amount of the Yankee's payroll . I've even defended George's BUSINESS decisions several times on these boards. Baseball is a business first and formost for the person who owns the team (George). The fans are not responsible for what he spends on his business. I wish Hicks would invest like that in his business here with the Rangers. Maybe we'd finally get some starting pitching.
Peralta over Jeter? I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that one and I'm not even a Yankee fan.
Yes the Yankees have a lot of All-Stars, but look at the team . Pretty hard not to have a bunch of All-Stars with their lineup every year.
Since Registerd_Guest's sig got so much attention......which really shouldn't have been a big deal, like many other things around here, let's take a look at it:
I drafted Randy over Roger and admit I'd rather have Roger's numbers so far this year. I'll still take Randy over Roger for the second half though (barring a trade of course).
2. New Yankee SP's = BUST! (again);
Other than Wang, he's got a point so far. RJ, Mussina, Pavano have all struggled so far.
3. Bernie will cover the least amount of ground of any CF in baseball for 4th straight yr.;
I've been wondering for quite some time why he's still on the team. I know he's a hometown favorite, but it really is time for him to hang them up and retire.
4. Yanks = stuck with Giambi's contract;
This is true, but Giambi has had a nice recent surge, so it may not turn out to be all that bad.
5. Loaiza > any SP signed in offseason by Yankees.
This one I disagree with even now.
So anyway, what's the problem? He made a few predictions/observations and put them in his sig. There are all kinds of watches/busts/breakouts in people's sigs. None have been made a big deal about until now. Goes back to the overly sensitive part that I mentioned earlier.
BronX, I'm sure you could do the same thing with the Royals in your sig and most Royals fans would probably agree that they stink this year. That team needs some serious help. You also wouldn't be the first to say that the Russ Ortiz signing was dumb, or that it's pretty sad the Devil Rays only spend $30 million on their team. None of that is news to anyone and has been said before.
BronX, you also asked if you were the problem. I'm going to say you're not the problem, but part of the reactions you get are in response to some of your overreactions to some things that are said. If you tone down in situations that just might not be "Yankee hating", I'd say that your conversations would probably be a whole lot more civil and interesting, but that's just the way I see some of those conversations. Granted, there is quite a bit of dumb stuff said about the Yankees, and in those times, you're harsh responses are necessary. Just pointing out that everything bad that's said about the Yankees isn't necessarily "Yankee hating" or trying to stir up problems. Being able to deciper which is which is an invaluable tool. For the most part in this thread, I think you've done a good job . I do believe you overreacted to Registered_Guest's sig and have yet to acknowledge that he did in fact take it down due to the overreaction, but other than that, not a bad job at all in this thread.
Venting forum? Nah, this is something that's been building up for a long time and it's about time it gets discussed.
I see Registered_Guest removed his sig and didn't even get so much as a "Thank You" for removing something that isn't any different than anything else around here. Blank mentioned he took it down, but that's all that was said. Why am I not surprised?
Yes, if the White Sox spent $200 million in payroll and started the season terribly, the White Sox fans would have to endure a ton of bashing and joke making at their expense. Even though the fans are not responsible for what management spends or who they sign. Not saying any of it's right or ok, but it is the way it is. Any team that spends a crazy amount of money and fails, will be laughed at, and it's that way in any sport or business. Just a fact of life and comes with being a fan of the team or an employee of the business.
I don't think this thread is worthless. If everyone would just take a step back and see things the way they are, take off the blinders, and accept the world as is, this thread could actually be beneficial.
Blankman wrote:I think it really all starts with the Mods.
I've been in a real good mood until I read that seeing as how this is the third time in this thread you've attempted to call out the mods.
How many times do you want to lay the overreactions at the moderator's feet? This is the 3rd time in this thread! Quite frankly, we remove what we remove and I'm tired of hearing your whining and crying that we don't remove everything that's said that's remotely bad about the Yankees. Fact of the matter is that some people overreact to every little thing that isn't said nicely about the Yankees. I've removed more negative stuff about the Yankees than I have all other teams combined. I've even defending George's spending on several occasions. This is flat out ridiculous.
All this talk of hate in sigs, screen names, or opinions. Guess we should just ban anyone who mentions a player stinks this year, or a team that's not living up to expectations, right? Well, Chan Ho Park stinks!!! Guess I have to ban myself now right? After all, according to what everyone is saying, that's a hateful comment. Pretty soon it will be team A in Blue vs. team B in Green (is either blue or green a hateful color ? I get lost in all of this crap .) and there will be no winner, since one team would have to lose and thus, the world would be "hating on them".
Now that I've been through all 7 pages, none of anything I've written is directed at any specific team or person unless I stated so in the response. Pretty sad that the world has come to the point of having to put a disclaimer at the end of a post, but that's the world we live in , and that's another discussion completely. Anyway, all teams take abuse in the forums. Some more than others, but what people have to realize is that some teams have more fans than others and some teams are in the spotlight more than others. Look at how much abuse Cubs fans take. Has a single Cub fan (and there are a lot of Cub fans) come into this thread and complained about the amount of abuse they take? No. They understand that their team has issues and hearing it from other team's fans is all a part of being a Cubs fan.
Ahhh, but there's always a flipside to everything. Just look at how many people were cheering for the Red Sox to break the curse in the playoffs last year. Look at how many people cheered the Marlins when they were running hot. I personally cheered both those teams during thier runs even as a Ranger fan. I wanted to see Red Sox fans finally break their curse and win a World Championship. I also cheered the Marlins since I wanted to see Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez get a World Championship Ring. Does that make me a fan of either team beyond that? Absolutely not, but according to the way you guys throw the "hate" definition around, I really must be a Red Sox and Marlins "Lover". Then again, I've rooted for quite a few teams other than those, so I guess I just "Love" all teams, right? Of course not, but if you guys threw the "Lover" tag around like you do the "Hate" tag, you would all see just how plain silly all of this fighting and bickering really is.