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Postby Dice » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:37 pm

Time again to honor the least productive players in baseball. The Worst. League. Ever., was structured so that negative and unproductive play earns the most points. The point based scoring system is:

Hitters: AB (1), R (-1), H (-1), HR (-1), RBI (-1), SB (-1), CS (2), BB (-1), K (2), GIDP (2), E (2)

Pitchers: APP (1), W (-5), L (5), SV (-2), H (1), R (1), HR (1), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), WP (2), BLK (2), SVOP (2)

The top scorers in each position in the first half:

C B. Inge 285
C I. Rodriquez 260
C C. Snyder 216
1B B. Wilkerson 288
1B D. Young 267
1B R. Sexson 265
2B M. Bellhorn 204
2B J. Reyes 288
2B J. Spivey 286
3B D. Bell 270
3B E. Chavez 270
SS A. Berroa 316
SS J. Wilson 280
SS R. Clayton 274
OF C. Patterson 328
OF G. Sizemore 250
OF A. Rowand 250
OF G. Jenkins 250
OF J. Lane 244
SP E. Milton 278
SP J. Kennedy 271
SP J. Lima 264
SP K. Rueter 251
SP J. Jennings 241
SP Z. Greinke 239
RP B. Kim 174
RP T. Harper 151
RP J. Fassero 149
RP C. Fossum 149
RP D. May 141


And who's been "hot" lately? The top scorers in the past 30 days:

C B. Inge 100
C I. Rodriguez 83
1B D. Young 111
1B R. Sexson 110
2B N. Perez 113
2B M. Bellhorn 99
3B D. Relaford 103
3B. R. Mackowiak 101
SS J. Wilson 103
SS Al. Gonzalez 102
OF C. Patterson 132
OF W. Pena 112
OF J. Werth 111
OF P. Wilson 105
OF P Burrell 102
SP V. Santos 98
SP D. Lowe 98
SP J. Contreras 97
SP L. Hudson 94
SP M. Redman 92
RP L. Nunez 58
RP A. Bernero 56
RP L. Carter 51
RP R. Stone 51

The #1 overall pick Corey Patterson certainly earned his keep before being sent down.
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Postby RyanK » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:01 am

im confused :-?


chavez is doing the worst... hes played well the past few weeks, yet i know he sucked the fist like 2 months, jsut i figured thered be worse than him
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Postby Dice » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:48 am

When Eric Chavez slumps, he doesn't lose playing time because he's Eric Chavez. When Sean Burrough slumps, they drop him in the order, bench him some, and then send him to the minors.

You don't earn points if you can't play.

Also, strikeouts count for a lot in this league.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:29 am

I can't understand why Inge is on this list. He's one of the top C's in fantasy baseball. He has done not as well lately, but he's still ranked as the second highest C in O-Rank by Yahoo.

Looks like the system has a few kinks! :-o
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Postby rich101682 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:16 pm

RyanK wrote:im confused :-?


chavez is doing the worst... hes played well the past few weeks, yet i know he sucked the fist like 2 months, jsut i figured thered be worse than him


Patterson is whipping him. Chavez isn't the worst.
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Postby Strasil42 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:22 pm

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Postby blankman » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:46 pm

Mercer Boy wrote:I can't understand why Inge is on this list. He's one of the top C's in fantasy baseball. He has done not as well lately, but he's still ranked as the second highest C in O-Rank by Yahoo.

Looks like the system has a few kinks! :-o


O-Rank hardly means a thing ;-)
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Postby Dice » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:16 pm

Mercer Boy wrote:I can't understand why Inge is on this list. He's one of the top C's in fantasy baseball. He has done not as well lately, but he's still ranked as the second highest C in O-Rank by Yahoo.

Looks like the system has a few kinks! :-o


The league is meant to be a whimsical bizarro league, not the last word on a player's quality.

The league is constructed so that you get 1 pt. for every at bat. You can't stink on the field by sitting on the bench. Beyond that, you get extra points for bad stats (K's, ER, CS, GIDP) and are subtracted points for good stats (BB, H, HR, SB, R, RBI).

Inge is on top for C's because he has more plate appearances than other catchers (since he doesn't play catcher in real life and can play every day). He has 26 more AB's than Kendall in 2nd place, and 38 more than I-Rod in 3rd. Plus he's struck out more than any other C and has 13 errors, twice as many as any other C.

This being a points league, it reflects different criteria than 5x5 roto, and even moreso with being a negative points league.
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Postby blankman » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:23 pm

Just looking at the scoring, would it not have made sense to subtract an additional point for doubles, 2 more for triples and 3 pts for HR's? That would be the opposite of normal points based leagues and penalizes the players for have good slugging. It's a penalty for each base they take.

Essentially with the current system, a single, double and triple are worth the same value.
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Postby Dice » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:49 pm

blankman wrote:Just looking at the scoring, would it not have made sense to subtract an additional point for doubles, 2 more for triples and 3 pts for HR's? That would be the opposite of normal points based leagues and penalizes the players for have good slugging. It's a penalty for each base they take.

Essentially with the current system, a single, double and triple are worth the same value.


I played around with the scoring a bit. My concern with the extra base hit scoring you propose was that it would weaken hitting stats in proportion to pitching stats too much. I plugged in different scoring formulas into the projections until I got to this. It's not perfect. I think K's are a little too emphasized right now. I'll revisit it next season.
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