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by **go_jays_go** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:51 pm

mamorris wrote:Yeah, you got the pronunciation right, but I think it's much cooler if you say it like Snoop would ("Belizzle").

As I said before, He's Snoop's favourite Red. ;-D

by **Ajax** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:07 pm

cordscords wrote:He's a former starter moving into a closing gig. History tells me that makes for a great closer

The history that we remember tells us that a starter moving into a closing gig will make a great closer.

I think we're far more likely to remember the success stories than the failures.

I"m guessing that the SP-to-closer success examples (Eckersley, Righetti, Isringhausen, Smoltz, Gagne..etc.) are far outnumbered by the cases that didn't work out.

After all, if going from being a SP to being a closer was really that easy, no MLB team would ever sign a closer as a FA, or trade for one...They'd just take one of their crappy starters, and make him a closer.

by **EnFuego** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:10 pm

go_jays_go wrote:I think this kid will be decent. I'm glad he was officially named closer because I picked him up in most of my leagues.

But I was wondering one thing, How do you pronounce his last name?

Does it sound like Be-LIE-ul?

Remember what happened with Ryan Wagner... :-t

by **CPHFighter1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:09 pm

ravenmad22 wrote:I waited on Dempster, MacDOugal, Turnbow and all the other out of nowhere closers because the "sucked" according you many people on this board. Screw that, I've already added this guy. He can't be any worse than my current closers (Bruney and Ty Walker)

Don't blame the boards for your misfortune. Its your team, not the Cafe's. Glad to see you're making some decisions on your own now. The Cafe provides excellent analysis, but you have to use your own judgement as well. That being said, I'll go on record saying its a nice move to add Belilse.

by **bigh0rt** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:48 pm

ravenmad22 wrote:I waited on Dempster, MacDOugal, Turnbow and all the other out of nowhere closers because the "sucked" according you many people on this board. Screw that, I've already added this guy. He can't be any worse than my current closers (Bruney and Ty Walker)

You should've drafted a closer who had some sort of security, unless of course you got hit with the Gagne/Dotel injury bug or something. MacDougal, I still wouldn't have in a league with less than 12 teams, and there were plenty of reasons to have reservations about both Turnbow and Dempster back when they were announced as Closers. Hindsight is 20/20. Unless I was super desperate for any save I could muster, I wouldn't run out and get Belisle right now.

by **ravenmad22** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:18 pm

CPHFighter1 wrote:
ravenmad22 wrote:I waited on Dempster, MacDOugal, Turnbow and all the other out of nowhere closers because the "sucked" according you many people on this board. Screw that, I've already added this guy. He can't be any worse than my current closers (Bruney and Ty Walker)

Don't blame the boards for your misfortune. Its your team, not the Cafe's. Glad to see you're making some decisions on your own now. The Cafe provides excellent analysis, but you have to use your own judgement as well. That being said, I'll go on record saying its a nice move to add Belilse.

In no way am I blaming this board for not getting those guys. What I should have said is I'm not going to pass on a guy who is getting an opportunity just because he has not had great #'s in the past.

Just for the sake of personal pride, my decisions are never made by this board, however, I take into account the comments of the members when making personnel decisions.

By the way, my closers to start the season were BJ Ryan (who I still have), Benitez (ouch), Mike Adams (ouch), Joe Borowski (ouch) and Lyon (ouch). So yes, I have a 2/10 in saves and am desperate. I'll take Belisle and any other player who has been named closer at this point.

by **Trojan Pony** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:15 am

You guys think I should hold on to Weathers in case this kid is a bust like Ryan Wagner? I'd imagine that's who would get most of the opportunities by default if all else fails. Right?