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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:45 am

Narron said he is going to try Dunn in the 2nd spot, so I suspect it's for a good amount of time.

Also, everyone in the Marlins organization says there is no re-injury of the blister. It does look bad if you were watching, but they said it was just precautionary and he was a bit fatigued after just coming back.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:46 am

RBI going downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn if Dunn hit 2nd
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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:53 am

hongfu_chen wrote:RBI going downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn if Dunn hit 2nd


You would normally think so, but I'm not so sure in this situation. I've seen him play quite a bit and teams never ever pitch to him with men on. I mean why would you when you have Pena, the catcher, and pitcher behind him? Pitchers will be forced to pitch to him at least now, though I'd rather they put him in the #3 spot.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:56 am

hybrid wrote:
hongfu_chen wrote:RBI going downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn if Dunn hit 2nd


You would normally think so, but I'm not so sure in this situation. I've seen him play quite a bit and teams never ever pitch to him with men on. I mean why would you when you have Pena, the catcher, and pitcher behind him? Pitchers will be forced to pitch to him at least now, though I'd rather they put him in the #3 spot.


Think Brad Wilkerson.
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Postby theclefe » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:57 am

hybrid wrote:Narron said he is going to try Dunn in the 2nd spot, so I suspect it's for a good amount of time.

Also, everyone in the Marlins organization says there is no re-injury of the blister. It does look bad if you were watching, but they said it was just precautionary and he was a bit fatigued after just coming back.


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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:58 am

theclefe wrote:
hybrid wrote:Narron said he is going to try Dunn in the 2nd spot, so I suspect it's for a good amount of time.

Also, everyone in the Marlins organization says there is no re-injury of the blister. It does look bad if you were watching, but they said it was just precautionary and he was a bit fatigued after just coming back.


Nothing better than a strike out after you leadoff guy gets on to spark an offense.


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Postby hybrid » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:03 am

Wilkerson? I'd say there is a good amount of difference there. Pitchers are 1- actually afraid to pitch to Dunn with men on base 2-he has a much much better line up around him (Reds 6th in runs & Nats 29th). Oh yeah and if you give Wilkerson the power that Dunn has, add 15 hr's and his rbi total is better then Dunn's at the moment.

Can we get over the K's now, top of the line up is for on base. Do you want a contact hitter (double plays are more of a rally killer than a K with men on base) there that can't get oon base over .300 or Dunn? I'd take Dunn fairly easily, better chances of being on base and if they pitch to him he can hit a hr.
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Postby theclefe » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:13 am

hybrid wrote:Wilkerson? I'd say there is a good amount of difference there. Pitchers are 1- actually afraid to pitch to Dunn with men on base 2-he has a much much better line up around him (Reds 6th in runs & Nats 29th).

Can we get over the K's now, top of the line up is for on base. Do you want a contact hitter (double plays are more of a rally killer than a K with men on base) there that can't get oon base over .300 or Dunn? I'd take Dunn fairly easily, better chances of being on base and if they pitch to him he can hit a hr.


there are so few quality #2 men in baseball these days, so I guess Dunn is their best bet. i can only name a handful of players who make contact to the right, can bunt and has decent enough speed to beat the DP. Not to mention the lack of leadoff guys who can steal second to null the double play, or fast guys who have a decent enough OBP to bat leadoff.
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Postby Cooner » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:49 am

theclefe wrote:
there are so few quality #2 men in baseball these days, so I guess Dunn is their best bet. i can only name a handful of players who make contact to the right, can bunt and has decent enough speed to beat the DP. Not to mention the lack of leadoff guys who can steal second to null the double play, or fast guys who have a decent enough OBP to bat leadoff.


I've been noticing this myself lately. A lot of the "fast guys" out there have crappy OBP. I don't get it, with speed as a weapon, you gotta be able to get on base to use it.
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