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Postby JGarrison » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:20 am

Except for a few games, he has pitched good. Opinions?

Jun. 28 Bronson Arroyo (P) Bos will be moved to the bullpen once Curt Schilling returns from his ankle injury in less than two weeks, according to the Boston Herald.

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Postby Dice » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:23 am

Good move for the Sox for real baseball. The Sox Bullpen needs help, and Arroyo can make the easiest adjustment.

Fantasy-wise, sorry Arroyo owners. (Although I see him doing well in the role.)

And no, I don't see him replacing Keith Foulke as a closer. At least not this year.
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:23 am

I think he's more deserving of a starting role in that rotation than Wakefield, especially with how Wakefield has proven to be a great commodity out of the pen, and a good change of pace guy. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Arroyo back in the rotation and Wakefield wind up in the pen at some point during this season. Sucks for fantasy owners of Bronson, though. I actually tried to buy him two months ago (and if he was guaranteed to start from today forward, I'd continue to try). I think he's very undervalued from a fantasy standpoint.
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Postby JGarrison » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:25 am

I would have thought they would send Miller or Wakefield back before Arroyo.
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Postby Dice » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:27 am

bigh0rt wrote:I think he's more deserving of a starting role in that rotation than Wakefield, especially with how Wakefield has proven to be a great commodity out of the pen, and a good change of pace guy. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Arroyo back in the rotation and Wakefield wind up in the pen at some point during this season. Sucks for fantasy owners of Bronson, though. I actually tried to buy him two months ago (and if he was guaranteed to start from today forward, I'd continue to try). I think he's very undervalued from a fantasy standpoint.


Arroyo has better stats and does "deserve" the starting role over Wakefield, but when Wake's personal catcher Mirabelli was hurt earlier in the year, Varitek had a really tough time catching the knuckler since he hadn't had to do it in three years. Having Wake in the late innings of games having to pitch to Varitek would be nerve wracking.
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Postby This is the year » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 am

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Basically, I don't think there's any way Wakefield goes to the bullpen. He's been bounced from long reliever to starter to closer for his whole career. Despite being a knuckleballer, he's not at the stage of his career where they're going to mess around with his role, especially being the senior member of the team. He is their 5th starter, and will remain so.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:42 pm

There are two reasons for this:

1) As discussed, moving Wake to the pen is difficult. The knuckleball is fickle, and having him come in for short situations isn't really best--you pretty much know what you're going to get when he starts-- 4-5 runs for six or seven innings. Not great, but decent.

2) The Sox bullpen sucks. Arroyo goes a long way to solve that problem. He proved in the playoffs he can be used regularly in that role, and he can be a top-flight righty specialist. Teams have been stacking the lineups with lefties due to his drastic splits, and this will make use of what he does best--get righties out.

This move, in sum, solves two big problems.
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Postby LooseCannon » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:45 pm

He started off so amazing........I wonder what happened....wasn't he 6-0 at one point?
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:52 pm

Transmogrifier wrote:There are two reasons for this:

1) As discussed, moving Wake to the pen is difficult. The knuckleball is fickle, and having him come in for short situations isn't really best--you pretty much know what you're going to get when he starts-- 4-5 runs for six or seven innings. Not great, but decent.

2) The Sox bullpen sucks. Arroyo goes a long way to solve that problem. He proved in the playoffs he can be used regularly in that role, and he can be a top-flight righty specialist. Teams have been stacking the lineups with lefties due to his drastic splits, and this will make use of what he does best--get righties out.

This move, in sum, solves two big problems.


Excellent, excellent points. ;-D
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Postby theclefe » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:52 pm

Arroyo is overrated. Wake is underrated, real baseball wise.

Arroyo could pitch a gem, and he could give up seven runs the next start. Wake rarely blows up, and is a guarenteed seven innings with less than five runs. He has has been like that for ten years. With Boston's offense, I will take Wake.

If i had a choice though, I would keep both in the rotation and trade Wells to NY for beer.
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