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Postby acsguitar » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:09 pm

[Edit---Inappropriate even somewhat edited Acs.]

Whoops my bad ;-7
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:15 pm

Lofunzo wrote: If he is acting legit, he is really whipped. :-°


not sure about katie holmes but i would totally act whipped for a piece of elisha cuthbert. ;-D
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:18 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:
Lofunzo wrote: If he is acting legit, he is really whipped. :-°


not sure about katie holmes but i would totally act whipped for a piece of elisha cuthbert. ;-D
yea me too..but If i was in hollywood I'd be a mantramp
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Postby Phatferd » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:00 am

check this out guy's this is absolutely hilarious stuff...

It has to do with Tom Cruise on Oprah...

http://gorillamask.net/cookkimmel.shtml
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Postby Madison » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:38 am

Phatferd wrote:check this out guy's this is absolutely hilarious stuff...

It has to do with Tom Cruise on Oprah...

http://gorillamask.net/cookkimmel.shtml


Why did I click the link and watch it a second time 8-o ? Silly enough the first time around. :-b
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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:06 am

Madison wrote:
Phatferd wrote:check this out guy's this is absolutely hilarious stuff...

It has to do with Tom Cruise on Oprah...

http://gorillamask.net/cookkimmel.shtml


Why did I click the link and watch it a second time 8-o ? Silly enough the first time around. :-b


Agreed. Quite silly but still good. ;-D

Just saw the last part. Funny stuff. :-D
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Postby Irish » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:57 am

Let's get a bit of perspective here ok?

I agree Scientology sounds a bit cooky and out there, but look at any Religion and there is stuff that sounds just friggin hilarious. Mary had a baby without sex? Jonah was swallowed by a whale? Noah's Ark? The garden of Eden? An omnipotent God who has always been and always will be?

Beliefs that are accepted without much criticism in a dominant Christian culture, but that could be looked upon from outside as insane.

So, call Cruise a nut if you must (by all means he might be) but let's not get too high and mighty. People believe in different things.

What I have noticed is Tom atleast has good intentions. He is trying to speak out against things he doesn't believe in (referring to medication of rittalin etc) trying to make a change for the better.

Is this an actors place to be doing that, speaking about things that are outside his field? No. But atleast he's trying to express his opinion in an effort to help others according to his opinion. Basically a Jehovah's witness for Scientologists.

So, my conclusion is Tom may be a nut, he may be brainwashing Katie, but if he was Christian and speaking about these things he would be celebrated, where as he is now being demonized.

BY no means am I supporting Scientology, let's just get that straight. ;-D
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:30 pm

Irish wrote:Let's get a bit of perspective here ok?

I agree Scientology sounds a bit cooky and out there, but look at any Religion and there is stuff that sounds just friggin hilarious.

So, call Cruise a nut if you must (by all means he might be) but let's not get too high and mighty. People believe in different things.

What I have noticed is Tom atleast has good intentions. He is trying to speak out against things he doesn't believe in (referring to medication of rittalin etc) trying to make a change for the better.

;-D


i thought about that. honestly i did. religion is a personal subject thats quite touchy and something i didnt want to just comment on willy nilly. i even debated replying to this. but the fact is many countries dont recognize scientology as a religion and any description of it seems like rogue psychiatry seeking tax free status. while other religions ask for money, no other "religion" that i can think of actually charges its followers for treatment. it is a requirement to pay them in order to be healed. my feelings toward scientology arent based upon their beliefs, but how the organization operates.

while i agree with some things tom said in principal (primarily that there may be an overmedication trend, especially in hollywood), i think it is quite reckless for anyone without a proper degree to be dispensing medical advice. furthermore, the psychiatric treatments that cruise/scientologists are supporting havent been published for peer review. many of the other things he says are urban myths or half truths. in fact the story gets a little stranger. a group calling itself a psychiatric watchdog has come forward to support cruise and say that what he said on the show was accurate and truthful. however, that group was formed by scientologists.
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Postby WharfRat » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:10 pm

Irish wrote:Let's get a bit of perspective here ok?

I agree Scientology sounds a bit cooky and out there, but look at any Religion and there is stuff that sounds just friggin hilarious. Mary had a baby without sex? Jonah was swallowed by a whale? Noah's Ark? The garden of Eden? An omnipotent God who has always been and always will be?

Beliefs that are accepted without much criticism in a dominant Christian culture, but that could be looked upon from outside as insane.

So, call Cruise a nut if you must (by all means he might be) but let's not get too high and mighty. People believe in different things.

What I have noticed is Tom atleast has good intentions. He is trying to speak out against things he doesn't believe in (referring to medication of rittalin etc) trying to make a change for the better.

Is this an actors place to be doing that, speaking about things that are outside his field? No. But atleast he's trying to express his opinion in an effort to help others according to his opinion. Basically a Jehovah's witness for Scientologists.

So, my conclusion is Tom may be a nut, he may be brainwashing Katie, but if he was Christian and speaking about these things he would be celebrated, where as he is now being demonized.

BY no means am I supporting Scientology, let's just get that straight. ;-D


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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:14 pm

Irish wrote:Let's get a bit of perspective here ok?

I agree Scientology sounds a bit cooky and out there, but look at any Religion and there is stuff that sounds just friggin hilarious. Mary had a baby without sex? Jonah was swallowed by a whale? Noah's Ark? The garden of Eden? An omnipotent God who has always been and always will be?

Beliefs that are accepted without much criticism in a dominant Christian culture, but that could be looked upon from outside as insane.

So, call Cruise a nut if you must (by all means he might be) but let's not get too high and mighty. People believe in different things.

What I have noticed is Tom atleast has good intentions. He is trying to speak out against things he doesn't believe in (referring to medication of rittalin etc) trying to make a change for the better.

Is this an actors place to be doing that, speaking about things that are outside his field? No. But atleast he's trying to express his opinion in an effort to help others according to his opinion. Basically a Jehovah's witness for Scientologists.

So, my conclusion is Tom may be a nut, he may be brainwashing Katie, but if he was Christian and speaking about these things he would be celebrated, where as he is now being demonized.

BY no means am I supporting Scientology, let's just get that straight. ;-D


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