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Postby mwb743s » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:35 pm

stevethumb wrote:on a non-fantasy note...dharen makes 15x less $$ than mmulder


This is very true! Just think if Oakland would have taken Ankiel instead of Haren :-? 8-o , Sorry just a little dream I had! :-D
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Postby The Jury » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:07 pm

Mark Mulder does have some things to straighten out, but when he's on his game he is without a doubt better than Danny Haren. When Mulder has a normal year, he's on of the top pitchers in his league.

The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.
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Postby pangbones » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:51 pm

RynMan wrote:
stevethumb wrote:on a non-fantasy note...dharen makes 15x less $$ than mmulder


Agreed. People are still reserving hope for Mulder, I'm not so optimistic. :-/


Neither am I. He looks like he has no arm strength. Throwing too many meatballs.
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Postby RynMan » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:57 pm

The Jury wrote:The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.


He hasn't shown it yet this year. On top of that his numbers would be even worse if he were in the AL.
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:24 am

RynMan wrote:
The Jury wrote:The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.


He hasn't shown it yet this year. On top of that his numbers would be even worse if he were in the AL.


Absolutely. If memory serves, the era in the AL is generally half a run higher than in the NL. So bump Mulders 4.75 era up to 5.25 in the AL...
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Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:28 am

Absolutely Adequate wrote:
RynMan wrote:
The Jury wrote:The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.


He hasn't shown it yet this year. On top of that his numbers would be even worse if he were in the AL.


Absolutely. If memory serves, the era in the AL is generally half a run higher than in the NL. So bump Mulders 4.75 era up to 5.25 in the AL...


Great point AA. Mulder's past can't be debated, but Haren has simply been better this year, and that's after an April that left both Oakland and Fantasy Owners ready to tell him to try his hand at a new career. :-)
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Postby RynMan » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:51 am

Absolutely Adequate wrote:
RynMan wrote:
The Jury wrote:The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.


He hasn't shown it yet this year. On top of that his numbers would be even worse if he were in the AL.


Absolutely. If memory serves, the era in the AL is generally half a run higher than in the NL. So bump Mulders 4.75 era up to 5.25 in the AL...


You know what I think is amazing, how people are soo quick to jump all over a guy like Zito, but cover up the name and Mulder is a waivor wire pitcher aswell! Of course I am disregarding track record...
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Postby Half Massed » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:22 pm

zito's numbers lately are definitely better than waiver wire material... but in the beginning i was hearing some say drop him. too bad it didn't happen in any of my leagues. :-/
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Postby Yoda » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:25 pm

RynMan wrote:
Absolutely Adequate wrote:
RynMan wrote:
The Jury wrote:The A's, being a small market team, got what they could from the Cards when they let Mulder go, but if money wasn't an issue, Mark Mulder is the better pitcher.


He hasn't shown it yet this year. On top of that his numbers would be even worse if he were in the AL.


Absolutely. If memory serves, the era in the AL is generally half a run higher than in the NL. So bump Mulders 4.75 era up to 5.25 in the AL...


You know what I think is amazing, how people are soo quick to jump all over a guy like Zito, but cover up the name and Mulder is a waivor wire pitcher aswell! Of course I am disregarding track record...


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