But with that potent cards lineup, he's bound to get more wins, and the more run support you get the more confidence. I think that Mulder will get his act together, and Haren will compile a very good year.
Well let's be honest, not like Haren is pitching like a Tom Seaver either. He's turned it up as of later, but an ERA just a smidge (great word) under 4 isn't fantastic.
Cardinal's broadcasters said this last night, and I agree, is that you want Mulder good and strong for the playoffs.
...Boston papers now and then suffer a sharp flurry of arithmetic on this score; indeed, for Williams to have distributed all his hits so they did nobody else any good would constitute a feat of placement unparalleled in the annals of selfishness. -Updike
RAmst23 wrote:Well let's be honest, not like Haren is pitching like a Tom Seaver either. He's turned it up as of later, but an ERA just a smidge (great word) under 4 isn't fantastic.
Cardinal's broadcasters said this last night, and I agree, is that you want Mulder good and strong for the playoffs.
I don't buy the "saving it for the playoffs" thing. Not in this sport, anyway. This suggests that Mulder is not throwing his best pitches, because it somehow saves fatigue? Give me a break.
People in St. Louis are grasping at straws, because they realize they traded away a better, younger pitcher for someone who hasn't been right since before the break last season.
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ocmusicjunkie wrote:People in St. Louis are grasping at straws
i think the excuse now is that mulder didnt think he needed to change anything so wasnt really listening to pitching coach dave duncan but after his latest pounding is now a little more open to changing some things. thats just a rumor going around. have no idea if there is any truth to it.
because they realize they traded away a better, younger pitcher for someone who hasn't been right since before the break last season.
RAmst23 wrote:Well let's be honest, not like Haren is pitching like a Tom Seaver either. He's turned it up as of later, but an ERA just a smidge (great word) under 4 isn't fantastic.
Cardinal's broadcasters said this last night, and I agree, is that you want Mulder good and strong for the playoffs.
I don't buy the "saving it for the playoffs" thing. Not in this sport, anyway. This suggests that Mulder is not throwing his best pitches, because it somehow saves fatigue? Give me a break.
People in St. Louis are grasping at straws, because they realize they traded away a better, younger pitcher for someone who hasn't been right since before the break last season.
Shortsighted. He's put in a quality start 6 of his last 7 starts with 4+ Ks in every one(4-1). Granted, pitchers do have hot and cold streaks but this is one you cannot discount.
Mulder, comparitively, has only put in 3 QS in his last 8 starts and only has 4+ Ks in 4 of his last 8 starts. (3-4)
No doubt StL will carry MM to more wins, but Haren is the far more attractive option just looking at the recent numbers.
Haren has been doing quite well over the last month of so. The biggest change with him has been the decreased amount of walks. While I doubt it, but he just might be better down the stretch than Mulder.
Haren's got good stuff and it appears that he is learning to use it.
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