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Postby Jagfan21 » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:22 am

Eric Gagne is on the DL my 5th round pick :~(

i did manage brazoban how many saves do u think hell have
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Postby Jagfan21 » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:22 am

*and out for the season
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Postby Box » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:52 am

Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.
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Postby Octavian » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:23 am

Box wrote:
Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.


That's not true... it might be with Gagne because he already had surgery on that elbow, on that ligament... but Tommy John surgery has pretty much been perfected. They say a lot of guys come back stronger after TJ surgery than when they first started. The days where this injury and surgery end careers and cost multiple seasons have been gone for some time.
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Postby noseeum » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:26 am

SominaDei wrote:
Box wrote:
Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.


That's not true... it might be with Gagne because he already had surgery on that elbow, on that ligament... but Tommy John surgery has pretty much been perfected. They say a lot of guys come back stronger after TJ surgery than when they first started. The days where this injury and surgery end careers and cost multiple seasons have been gone for some time.


It is true. You're right it's not a career ender, but is still take about 18 months before you're able to pitch again. He's out for most, if not all, of next season.
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Postby toofunnyy » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:47 pm

He never said career, he said next season. Which is fairly accurate.

BEST care is all-star break 06. But could easily be all of 06 if they don't like how he's coming along.
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Postby Octavian » Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:05 pm

noseeum wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
Box wrote:
Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.


That's not true... it might be with Gagne because he already had surgery on that elbow, on that ligament... but Tommy John surgery has pretty much been perfected. They say a lot of guys come back stronger after TJ surgery than when they first started. The days where this injury and surgery end careers and cost multiple seasons have been gone for some time.


It is true. You're right it's not a career ender, but is still take about 18 months before you're able to pitch again. He's out for most, if not all, of next season.


In 1976 Tommy John himself took 18 months to recover. It takes about a year to recover from Tommy John surgery now, we'll see him back around this time next year.
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:47 pm

SominaDei wrote:
noseeum wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
Box wrote:
Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.


That's not true... it might be with Gagne because he already had surgery on that elbow, on that ligament... but Tommy John surgery has pretty much been perfected. They say a lot of guys come back stronger after TJ surgery than when they first started. The days where this injury and surgery end careers and cost multiple seasons have been gone for some time.


It is true. You're right it's not a career ender, but is still take about 18 months before you're able to pitch again. He's out for most, if not all, of next season.


In 1976 Tommy John himself took 18 months to recover. It takes about a year to recover from Tommy John surgery now, we'll see him back around this time next year.

The fact that the operation has been perfected has nothing to do with the recovery time. The human body hasn't changed that much since 1976. Recovery for an athlete is anywhere form 12-24 months. 18 months seems to be the norm. It is very unlikely that Gagne pitches substantially next year and a return prior to the '06 AS break is highly unlikely. And no I'm not a doctor but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.
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Postby Half Massed » Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:57 pm

And no I'm not a doctor but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.


heh :-D that was a good commercial, and you used it well. ;-D
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Postby Octavian » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:53 pm

Amazinz wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
noseeum wrote:
SominaDei wrote:
Box wrote:
Jagfan21 wrote:*and out for the season


*And possibly next season if he needs TJ.


That's not true... it might be with Gagne because he already had surgery on that elbow, on that ligament... but Tommy John surgery has pretty much been perfected. They say a lot of guys come back stronger after TJ surgery than when they first started. The days where this injury and surgery end careers and cost multiple seasons have been gone for some time.


It is true. You're right it's not a career ender, but is still take about 18 months before you're able to pitch again. He's out for most, if not all, of next season.


In 1976 Tommy John himself took 18 months to recover. It takes about a year to recover from Tommy John surgery now, we'll see him back around this time next year.

The fact that the operation has been perfected has nothing to do with the recovery time. The human body hasn't changed that much since 1976. Recovery for an athlete is anywhere form 12-24 months. 18 months seems to be the norm. It is very unlikely that Gagne pitches substantially next year and a return prior to the '06 AS break is highly unlikely. And no I'm not a doctor but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.


Bump.

Thanks for trying, though. ;-D Back sooner than I thought... but no where near your alarmist claims of 12-24 months. I waited quietly after that smug post for my claims to be vindicated... and here it is:

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