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Postby Rance Mulliniks » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:56 am

This kid just keeps on amazing me. Seriously - hitting in the #5 spot, learing a new position in the majors, and hitting over .380.

Just got his first HR today.

I know this was raised in the Leftovers board, but we really have to wonder where he'll fit in once Koskie is back.

OHud has a great glove, but has been struggling offensively. Seems JP has always envisioned an Adams/Hill middle-infield - wonder if the O-Dog will be the odd man out at some point?

With Adams struggles, I'd prefer to see Hill at SS at some point.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:25 am

And he stole third!

O-Dog has to stay in there. Besides the defence, the guy is also the team leader. I think that his clubhouse presence and attitude means a lot to this squad and I wouldn't want to mess with that.

I would platoon him with Adams. Too bad that this would bump MacDonald out of a job. Maybe we'll get lucky and Hinske will get hurt ;-7
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Postby Lime » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:32 pm

Hill's defensive skills are best utilized at 3rd. He has been fantastic at the left corner and I'd keep him there even when Koskie comes back.

When Corey does get back, my preferred lineup:

1. Johnson/Catalanotto LF
2. Rios RF
3. Hill 3B
4. Wells CF
5. Hillenbrand 1B
6. Koskie DH
7. Zaun C
8. Adams SS
9. Hudson 2B

Although my mind can change depending on how everyone performs from here until Koskie does return.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:36 pm

If you did that you would pretty much have to trade Hinske. He was really pissed off at having to sit against lefties for 2 games in Chicago - how do you think that he would react to being a backup to a rookie?

I think that the Jays either have to start Hinske or get rid of him.
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Postby Lime » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:44 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:If you did that you would pretty much have to trade Hinske. He was really pissed off at having to sit against lefties for 2 games in Chicago - how do you think that he would react to being a backup to a rookie?

I think that the Jays either have to start Hinske or get rid of him.


No first baseman on earth who's hitting .250/.330/.400 has any right to whine about playing time. Hinske can eat my ass if he feels he warrants playing time over any one of Hillenbrand, Hill, or Koskie.

Having negative trade value, we're better off keeping him as a bench player instead of eating his salary to get rid of him, unless his crying antics really become a problem in the clubhouse.
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Postby Rance Mulliniks » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:39 am

Lime wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:If you did that you would pretty much have to trade Hinske. He was really pissed off at having to sit against lefties for 2 games in Chicago - how do you think that he would react to being a backup to a rookie?

I think that the Jays either have to start Hinske or get rid of him.


No first baseman on earth who's hitting .250/.330/.400 has any right to whine about playing time. Hinske can eat my ass if he feels he warrants playing time over any one of Hillenbrand, Hill, or Koskie.

Having negative trade value, we're better off keeping him as a bench player instead of eating his salary to get rid of him, unless his crying antics really become a problem in the clubhouse.


I would tend to agree with your sentiments about Hinske (though I would moderate the language as there are no doubt young fans who frequent these forums). He's been pretty awful in June - one HR, no multi-hit games. His AVG has tumbled from .290 down below .245

Even after a great April, Hinske has been horrible against lefties and brutal on the road. If he could string together some consistently good months like he did his rookie year, he might be serviceable, but I'd think a change of scenery would do him good.

Unfortuntalely, it's a fair point that his trade value may be negative. Let's see if JP can work any magic without eating too much of his contract.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:12 am

JP interview on the FAN this morning:

- Hill is not going anywhere and stays in the Show when Koskie comes back.
- strongly hinted that Koskie's rehab will be prolonged and said the they will not rush him because of the way Hill has been playing; and
- when Koskie does come back Koskie is going to be the starting third baseman and Hill is going to be the utility guy.
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Postby go_jays_go » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:39 am

Mookie4ever wrote:JP interview on the FAN this morning:

- Hill is not going anywhere and stays in the Show when Koskie comes back.
- strongly hinted that Koskie's rehab will be prolonged and said the they will not rush him because of the way Hill has been playing; and
- when Koskie does come back Koskie is going to be the starting third baseman and Hill is going to be the utility guy.


Did he say anything about Lilly being dealt? :-?

A lot of rumors i've been hearing are about teams with a large amount of interest for Lilly.
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Postby reznorsboy » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:21 am

I actually sat Beltre this week in favor of Hill. I hope they keep Hill at 3rd base when Koskie gets back. Knowing Koskie he will just get hurt again. I think they should just trade Hinske. He is an idiot and doesn't bring enough to the table to warrant putting up with his antics.
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