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Postby Tavish » Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:14 pm

blankman wrote:
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Jugemc wrote:people have been saying "no batter reached base"
i might be wrong but i was thinking that the batter reaches first base on the error, and then precedes to get thrown out stealing or picked off. in either situation it would get the publicity like a true perfect game. I think this is a question meant for the boys at PTI.


That is not a perfect game. Reread the MLB definition I posted earlier.


Right.

In this scenario, the error was on a foul ball. Therefore no one reached base.


Right, but in the second scenario that I quoted a player reached on an error and was putout on the basepath. No perfect game there.
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Postby blankman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:32 pm

Tavish wrote:
blankman wrote:
Tavish wrote:
Jugemc wrote:people have been saying "no batter reached base"
i might be wrong but i was thinking that the batter reaches first base on the error, and then precedes to get thrown out stealing or picked off. in either situation it would get the publicity like a true perfect game. I think this is a question meant for the boys at PTI.


That is not a perfect game. Reread the MLB definition I posted earlier.


Right.

In this scenario, the error was on a foul ball. Therefore no one reached base.


Right, but in the second scenario that I quoted a player reached on an error and was putout on the basepath. No perfect game there.


Yes I know. ;-D
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:29 am

It's been my understanding that a dropped foul ball is registered as an error only if the batter reaches base on some subsequent pitch in the at-bat. If the batter is retired, no error.
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Postby biju » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:51 am

Ok, I did just a little research on this. Please check this page on Jerry Reuss

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/past/pp/reussjerry/

For those uninterested in checking the link...

The BASEBALL Page wrote:Feats
Pitched a no-hitter on July 27, 1980, against the Giants in Candlestick Park. He was deprived of a perfect game when shortstop Bill Russell committed a throwing error in the first inning to allow the Giants' lone baserunner.


Maybe this is the single instance, but then again we don't really have much to go on since there are only a few examples of perfect games. I have to assume this is the correct scoring.
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Postby BeefSandwiches » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:36 am

biju wrote:
The BASEBALL Page wrote:Feats
Pitched a no-hitter on July 27, 1980, against the Giants in Candlestick Park. He was deprived of a perfect game when shortstop Bill Russell committed a throwing error in the first inning to allow the Giants' lone baserunner.


Maybe this is the single instance, but then again we don't really have much to go on since there are only a few examples of perfect games. I have to assume this is the correct scoring.


The example shown is scored correctly - it is a no-hitter, but not a perfect game.
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Postby SouthBronxBombers » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:35 am

I don't see how there is any question on this. It is obviously a perfect game. Fielders can drop every foul pop hit and as long as the batter does not reach base within that at bat it has no bearing on whether it is a perfect game or not.
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