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Postby Cobra_Kai » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:21 am

Okay, so what's the verdict on this clown?

Someone in my league dropped him...I grabbed him off the WW (dropping brandon lyon...no big loss, since I lead in SV with k-rod, bj ryan and huston street).

I'm wondering if he's ever going to start to hit? I grabbed him with the hope he could be late season trade-bait (I already have Teix and Sexson for my 1B/utility slots).

Is this going to pan out? Is he just goign to suck all year?
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Postby diesel99xx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:34 am

No clue, I have him as well, that team is just so horrible, he has no protection at all, they are just tossing him balls to swing at,tough year for TH
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Postby This is the year » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:43 am

I'd say there will be an extended period of the year where he'll be playing well above waiver wire level. Maybe he gets traded to a contender that can offer him some lineup protection (baltimore?? :-o ) at the deadline
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Postby Chuckles » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:46 am

This is the year wrote:I'd say there will be an extended period of the year where he'll be playing well above waiver wire level. Maybe he gets traded to a contender that can offer him some lineup protection (baltimore?? :-o ) at the deadline


Boy do I ever hope...he's driving me crazy...not exactly how you want a first-second round pick to pan out thus far...
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Postby cordscords » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:14 pm

He got 2 hits last night. Hopefully a sign of things to come!
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Postby silverZ » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:18 pm

wow Helton on the WW? The guy is a career .320 hitter if i remember correctly and he hits in the best hitters park in the WORLD (ok maybe not the world, the japanese probably have a coors-like field on some mountain :-b ) Pick him up even if you have to bench him until he gets hot. Once he goes on a tear watch out.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:47 pm

2 oe 3 more weeks of Helton hitting like Mienkewitz and you will see him dropped in the majority of leagues. This guy has shown absolutely no signs of life since about April I believe.
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Postby rainman23 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:02 pm

I don't buy that lineup protection thing at all. Maybe I'd feel different if I could see some Rockies games. Based strictly on reviewing the box scores and vomiting every day, though...I'd at least expect him to be walking more if they were pitching around him. He's K'd as often as he's walked this year, way down from his typical ratio. You'd expect it to be the other way, wouldn't you, if nobody was pitching to him?

I gotta say, at this point, anybody who is pitching around Helton is making a serious mistake.
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Postby warrick95 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:04 pm

It's a joke if anybody's dropping him. Y'all can't deny years and years of production vs. just two months. The "no lineup protection" argument doesn't work, because he had none last year and still hit .347. His OBP is at .385 which is pretty high, but still off his normal mid .400s. Thus, it's not like pitchers are always bypassing him. This is just an extended slump and being one of the best hitters of the game playing at Coors' Field, will end eventually. He's one of the best buy lows at this point. Without a great lineup, he won't put up first round numbers, but will still be a 2-3 round player.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:08 pm

The protection argument also holds no water when you factor in that he had even less in 04 when Wilson was out. And traditionally, guys like Chavez and Bonds have hit with virtually NO ONE around them and have not gone the way of trash. You could buy a falloff in rbis, more walks, a few less homers and runs, but what we are seeing here with Helton boils down to 1 of 3 things:

a. He is hurt and he or the Rox are hiding the injury while he plays through it. They may want to deal Helton and a DL stint would not be somethong they want to do as a result. Of course they were not counting on him blowing in this case either.

b. He is just in a horrible slump.

c. He is a roid-boy and now off the roids has fallen in with the likes of Giambi and Bret Boone.
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