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Postby Nero » Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:48 am

This is a chicken/egg scenario...

If Delgado is on fire and raises his team into the top 500 then all the players on his team are brought up with him into the ranking.

So if someone has 3 studs and then junk on his team you're going to find Trot Nixon in there at some point

Let it filter out around the All Star break
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Postby WinLoseOrBrawl » Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:36 am

I'm not so sure how accurate these "keys to success" are. I picked 6 out of 12 of these guys and I am currently in 4th place (4 points back) in a 10 team head to head league.


1. Prior - 103
2. Preston Wilson - 137 (ME)
3. Pujols - 7 (ME)
4. Sheffield- 69
4. Kearns - 207 (ME)
4. Delgado - 51
7. Foulke - 67 (ME)
8. Vernon Wells - 185
9. Matt Morris - 47 (ME)
9. Furcal - 204
9. Williamson - Waivers (ME)
9. Alex Rodriguez - 1
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Postby pilambp » Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:16 pm

More data for you, from my Yahoo Public Roto League:

1. Prior - 71
2. Preston Wilson - 97 (me)
3. Pujols - 15
4. Sheffield - 31
4. Kearns - 147
4. Delgado - 57
7. Foulke - 91
8. Vernon Wells - 135
9. Matt Morris - 30
9. Furcal - 210
9. Williamson - 118
9. Alex Rodriguez - 1 (me)


My total: 83.58. I'm in first place for this league right now, but the top 3 are very close.
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Postby 9er Fan » Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:36 pm

1. Prior - 40th pick
2. Preston Wilson - 62nd pick
3. Pujols - 2nd pick (traded Manny & Urbina for him)
4. Sheffield - 54th pick
4. Kearns - 127th pick
4. Delgado - 45th pick
7. Foulke - 82nd pick
8. Vernon Wells - 97th pick (me)
9. Matt Morris - 52th pick
9. Furcal - 109th pick
9. Williamson - 151st pick (me)
9. Alex Rodriguez - 1st pick (me)

Average: 68.5


Currently in 4th, but I think my team is better than that. To me though, true league quality has more to do with what happens after the draft (waiver pickups, trades, substitutions, strategies, overall activity, etc.)
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Postby DGroundhog » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:08 am

bleach168 wrote:I see now that Keys to Success isn't really about the best sleepers, but rather, the most popular sleepers among the best fantasy players.


I think that is definitely true of Prior, Wilson, Wells, and Kearns. Very popular with experienced owners as sleeper pick.

Good topic though. A pretty decent way to compare leagues, and how well the league owners did selecting some key contibutors.



One name kind of surprised me, but I don't think he'll be there long. He stands out in his group:

15 Mussina, Mike (SP-NYY) 13.4
15 Mantei, Matt (RP-Ari) 13.4
15 Soriano, Alfonso (2B-NYY) 13.4
15 Williams, Woody (SP-StL) 13.4

I guess these savvy owners can't be right all the time.
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Postby ramble2 » Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:23 pm

Who knows what this tells us about league competitiveness or shrewdness of owners. I just like the idea of coming up with yet another way of quantifying fantasy baseball! Here's my league (it's a keeper league where we kept up to four players from last year, so I've estimated A Rod, Pujols, Delgado and Morris's pick position. I put A Rod as the 5th pick b/c his owner had the 5th pick in our draft this year, and I've assumed he would have taken A Rod with that pick.)

1. Prior - 38th pick
2. Preston Wilson - 49th pick
3. Pujols - 9th pick
4. Sheffield - 45th pick
4. Kearns - 96th pick
4. Delgado - 31st pick
7. Foulke - 74th pick
8. Vernon Wells - 98th pick
9. Matt Morris - 28th pick
9. Furcal - 109th pick
9. Williamson - 103rd pick
9. Alex Rodriguez - 5th pick

Average for the 11-team league: 57.08 (!) (Of course, it is a keeper league, so people in my league might be more willing to take a Wells, Kearns and Prior earlier than a non-keeper league).

And even though I'm not entirely convinced this is a good measure of league toughness, I sure feel better about being in 4th place! (I think by the end of the year I'll rise to 2nd - but our first place team is going to be tough to overtake.)
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Postby Jack-In-A-Box » Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:39 pm

Prior-26th
Wilson-77th(me)
Pujols-9th
Sheff-59th
Kearns-187th
Delgado-40th
Foulke-78th
V.Wells-172nd
Morris-33rd (me)
Furcal-99th
Williamson-180th
Arod-1st

LQR- 80.083 Currently in 3rd in standings in H2H but lead in total points.
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