Pity I missed the game...would have been interesting to see how an incident wrt pine tar in a pitcher's glove led to this...
Rotoworld:
Jose Guillen went 2-for-5 and hit a game-tying two-run homer in the eighth inning tonight in the Nationals' 6-3 win over the Angels.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. If Guillen didn't have four people holding him back, he would have been ejected when the benches cleared following Brendan Donnelly's ejection. He probably should have been anyway.
Well, here's what I believe happened. I watched this drama unfold and I'm pretty sure it went like this.
With this being an interleague affair, there's only one way I can see that F Robby knew something was up with Donnelly. Someone tipped him off.
Now, let's see...what Nationals player might have a little bit of a grudge against the Angels and would know about Donnelly perhaps loading up his glove? Uh, how 'bout one Jose Guillen, the former Halo whose tenure with the team ended rather badly last season. Pretty obvious he was the informer, particularly when some of the Angels pitchers starting yapping at him during the on-field 50 player plus coaches convention.
Guillen then lost his cool and had to be restrained. No question in my mind he's the "guilty party" here...although with this having taken place in SoCal, there's little doubt he would win an acquittal in any court of law.
thehat wrote:Well, here's what I believe happened. I watched this drama unfold and I'm pretty sure it went like this.
With this being an interleague affair, there's only one way I can see that F Robby knew something was up with Donnelly. Someone tipped him off.
Now, let's see...what Nationals player might have a little bit of a grudge against the Angels and would know about Donnelly perhaps loading up his glove? Uh, how 'bout one Jose Guillen, the former Halo whose tenure with the team ended rather badly last season. Pretty obvious he was the informer, particularly when some of the Angels pitchers starting yapping at him during the on-field 50 player plus coaches convention.
Guillen then lost his cool and had to be restrained. No question in my mind he's the "guilty party" here...although with this having taken place in SoCal, there's little doubt he would win an acquittal in any court of law.
hat, you are the man. we'll you knew that anyway. Great info, nice to see you weigh in on some opinion stuff too
what is the precedent for suspensions for a Donnely-like offence?
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Nothing is more exciting in a baseball game than raw power and when Jose Guillen hit that homerun, it was raw power because that's all he was up there to do, go yard. I thought it was awesome. Screw Scioscia, he's probably an egomaniac anyway. Nothing wrong with a little intensity. The highlights of that game were awesome.
I agree with the screw Scoscia comment. Last week, with the Erstad hit, it was all "this is the way the game is played, it is within the rules, yada, yada, yada." He was right, even though I thought Erstad could have avoided the hit. But he defended his player as playing within the rules.
Now, however, when his player is caught cheating and is clearly outside the rules, he cries like a baby that others do it, so it should be OK.
I'm with Frank Robinson - I've lost a lot of respect for him as a manager.
And with the bad blood between he and Guillen, and Guillen's antics after his home run, I'll be shocked if Guillen doesn't get plunked by the end of the series - which with Guillen's history, will likely lead to a brawl and a suspension. I'm glad I've got the MLB package - this should be fun to watch.
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