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Postby MashinSpuds » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:01 pm

This rumor is feebly based, as shown in the NYPost article the nyyfans.com site links to.

"Should the Yankees wait for age or contract issues to bite them on Gary Sheffield? What would the Cubs surrender for him, for example?"
--- Joel Sherman


Just a random thought, after randomly coming up with a few other names in the article. It's not likely to happen, folks.

Still, rumors are fun!
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Postby BritSox » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:05 pm

Thing is, isn't this autumn's FA class extremely weak, particularly in terms of position players? If they're not competing this year, there's little chance they will next, and by two seasons' time Sheff won't be the guy he is now.

If they could trade Sheff, get a decent but cheap major leaguer and some prospects back whilst shedding some salary, then by 2007 they'll have at least one lineup position (Cano) and one rotation spot (Wang) held by decent, young, cheap players.

If they then throw some of Brown's money at a decent midrange starter and conserve the rest of it, in the 2006/7 offseason they can make a big run at very good FA's/trade with teams looking to dump salary, and begin another dynasty. Even more so if they can buy Giambi off out of next season's payroll.

Obviously, I hope none of this actually happens.
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Postby AT » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:10 pm

BritSox wrote:Thing is, isn't this autumn's FA class extremely weak, particularly in terms of position players? If they're not competing this year, there's little chance they will next, and by two seasons' time Sheff won't be the guy he is now.

If they could trade Sheff, get a decent but cheap major leaguer and some prospects back whilst shedding some salary, then by 2007 they'll have at least one lineup position (Cano) and one rotation spot (Wang) held by decent, young, cheap players.

If they then throw some of Brown's money at a decent midrange starter and conserve the rest of it, in the 2006/7 offseason they can make a big run at very good FA's/trade with teams looking to dump salary, and begin another dynasty. Even more so if they can buy Giambi off out of next season's payroll.

Obviously, I hope none of this actually happens.


Ummm...Are you kidding me RedSox fan? What are you like a game and a half ahead of us right now or something?
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Postby Dice » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:18 pm

Corey Patterson: The first overall pick in the Worst. League. Ever. :-B :-D
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Postby BritSox » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:18 pm

If. IF. I'm not stating that you're not competing right now, I'm saying that if this team doesn't turn it around (say, by going on one of those seventeen-game streaks you did earlier) and ends up well off the pace, there don't seem to be enough available to rectify the situation in one offseason. In addition to the FA class, you'll have more trading chips in a season or two once you've rebuilt your farm.

Btw you're 3 1/2 games off us, not one and a half, and we're a further three off Baltimore. And we've been craptacular as well. It's only the O's injury crisis that has kept either of us in it.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:19 pm

BritSox wrote:Thing is, isn't this autumn's FA class extremely weak, particularly in terms of position players? If they're not competing this year, there's little chance they will next, and by two seasons' time Sheff won't be the guy he is now.

If they could trade Sheff, get a decent but cheap major leaguer and some prospects back whilst shedding some salary, then by 2007 they'll have at least one lineup position (Cano) and one rotation spot (Wang) held by decent, young, cheap players.

If they then throw some of Brown's money at a decent midrange starter and conserve the rest of it, in the 2006/7 offseason they can make a big run at very good FA's/trade with teams looking to dump salary, and begin another dynasty. Even more so if they can buy Giambi off out of next season's payroll.



Oh my God...music to my earssss.

I love it.
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Postby Trot Nixon » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:30 pm

Atrophying Testicles wrote:
BritSox wrote:Thing is, isn't this autumn's FA class extremely weak, particularly in terms of position players? If they're not competing this year, there's little chance they will next, and by two seasons' time Sheff won't be the guy he is now.

If they could trade Sheff, get a decent but cheap major leaguer and some prospects back whilst shedding some salary, then by 2007 they'll have at least one lineup position (Cano) and one rotation spot (Wang) held by decent, young, cheap players.

If they then throw some of Brown's money at a decent midrange starter and conserve the rest of it, in the 2006/7 offseason they can make a big run at very good FA's/trade with teams looking to dump salary, and begin another dynasty. Even more so if they can buy Giambi off out of next season's payroll.

Obviously, I hope none of this actually happens.


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Postby WharfRat » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:35 pm

BritSox wrote:Thing is, isn't this autumn's FA class extremely weak, particularly in terms of position players? If they're not competing this year, there's little chance they will next, and by two seasons' time Sheff won't be the guy he is now.

If they could trade Sheff, get a decent but cheap major leaguer and some prospects back whilst shedding some salary, then by 2007 they'll have at least one lineup position (Cano) and one rotation spot (Wang) held by decent, young, cheap players.

If they then throw some of Brown's money at a decent midrange starter and conserve the rest of it, in the 2006/7 offseason they can make a big run at very good FA's/trade with teams looking to dump salary, and begin another dynasty. Even more so if they can buy Giambi off out of next season's payroll.

Obviously, I hope none of this actually happens.


Do me a favor and fax that over to Big Stein, it might actually get him to think about the future. (Hrm...A Sox fan without his head up his arse...refreshing ;-D )
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Postby gws226 » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:06 pm

Its a 3 way trade, in which the Yanks get Vlad (whom they should of signed instead) and absorb both Sheffield's and Vlad's contract to make up for it.

There will also be another 3 way trade inwhich the Yanks absorb the ridiculous contract of Wright, in exchange for absorbing the contract of the SP they should of signed.

In exchange for pushing their payroll north of $250 million, they will also take on the contracts of Beltre, Ordonez, Hampton, (insert any other dumb contract here), pay the royals payroll for the next 5 years, and agree to sign Scott Boras's next three over-rated free agents at above market value to create a $20 to $1 difference between the highest paid team and the lowest paid team in baseball....

Funny how hockey could agree on that $50mil cap huh? :-D
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Postby KPucks » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:27 pm

gws226 wrote:Its a 3 way trade, in which the Yanks get Vlad (whom they should of signed instead) and absorb both Sheffield's and Vlad's contract to make up for it.

There will also be another 3 way trade inwhich the Yanks absorb the ridiculous contract of Wright, in exchange for absorbing the contract of the SP they should of signed.

In exchange for pushing their payroll north of $250 million, they will also take on the contracts of Beltre, Ordonez, Hampton, (insert any other dumb contract here), pay the royals payroll for the next 5 years, and agree to sign Scott Boras's next three over-rated free agents at above market value to create a $20 to $1 difference between the highest paid team and the lowest paid team in baseball....

Funny how hockey could agree on that $50mil cap huh? :-D


I thought hockey's cap was going to be like $35 million. It wasn't even close to $50 million.

As for Shef, this trade doesn't seem like enough for him. If the Yanks could get a good offer for Shef, they should do it, but this just doesn't seem like the best they could get.
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