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Postby wshnats20 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:39 pm

anybody see him turning it around?and whats is his value in a keeper league
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Postby FlawedReasoning » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:56 pm

Anybody? I'm really interested in this as well because I'm about to trade for him... So opinions would be very much appreciated!
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Postby wrigleyivy » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:02 pm

i am trying to shop him around already. i see him being good but hoping his name will carry his value above what i think his numbers will be this year. the lineup is not helping and he is not capitalizing like i think he should be.
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Postby JustAnotherYanksFan » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:12 pm

I'm also a Giles owner, and I'm also trying to shop him. However, that's not really because I think he's bad - it's more because I'd be satisfied starting Rickie Weeks and am in desperate need for a closer...

However, I think that Giles is bound to start hitting at some pont. He's been pretty average up until now, but considering how poorly the Braves' lineup as a whole has been hitting, I suspect that there's still time for him to turn it around, especially once the Braves start heating up.

Still, I definitely wouldn't pay close to full value for him. (By "full value," I mean fourth-to-sixth round pick value.) I traded BJ Ryan for him earlier in the year, and I've regretted it every day since. (Well, almost every day since - I didn't regret it that night he got three SB. ;-) )

In a keeper, he's obviously got a bit more value as a young player. However - and others can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this - I'm not sure his ceiling is too high. I see him as a scrappy player who tries his hardest on every play and is very capable of putting up 20-25-.300, but with limited potential to do much beyond that. That's certainly valuable at second base, but the problem is that because I don't see him as a guy whose raw talent is overwhelming, he's also capable of putting up a season around 12-20-.280, which is nothing spectacular.

(Of course, I'll admit that by only estimating his HR and SB and ignoring his R and RBI, I'm glossing over part of what makes him so valuable, which is his lineup spot. As long as he's hitting in the 2-spot, he'll get a lot more opportunities for runs and RBI's than the average second baseman.)

So basically, he's a guy I'd be more than happy to buy low on, but I wouldn't pay too much.
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Postby Rohan » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:12 pm

He could be a Derrick Lee type player in the second half. He's that good. You won't get his full value if you trade him now.
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Postby bd3521 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:14 pm

BP2005 says don't be surprised if he has a few MVP awards in the future
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Postby atlbraves11 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:41 pm

yeah he doesnt have too muchraw talent but he is an all out player. he was actually drafted in the 53rd round and he thought about giving up and being a cop. just heard that after a braves game.
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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:27 am

I could be wrong but doesn't he have a ton of doubles this year? Some are bound to go a bit farther in the second half.
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Postby sdslugger9 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:42 am

CrazyPooja90 wrote:I could be wrong but doesn't he have a ton of doubles this year? Some are bound to go a bit farther in the second half.


yes, he always hits doubles in the right-center field gap.


As for his value in a keeper league, I would think that his best years are ahead of him. I don't think he has hit his peak yet.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:28 am

Ok, giles is definitely still a keeper and a great player. His power numbers are down this season. I think it's cause he's striking out at a very high rate. It's also a little scary that he doesn't have as many doubles as he normally would. Once he starts htting the doubles the rest of the numbers will come.
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