GotowarMissAgnes wrote:I posted already on the Hoffman vs. Rivera issue.
Rivera's got a higher peak, but Hoyt Wilhelm is still considered by most to be the best reliever ever. If Rivera sustains this level (or even a lower level) for another 5-7 years, he'll top Wilhelm, imo.
do you happen to have wilhelm's numbers??
i dont think ive ever seen them.
There are a few reasons why I'd still rank Wilhelm above Mariano. His IP per season and the number of years he sustained his excellence are still much higher than Rivera's. Rivera's rate stats are better, although Wilhelm comes close to matching what Rivera did during his age 38-48 seasons. So, 2000 IP at 50% better than league average, to me, still tops 750 IP at 90% better than league average.
But if Mo can sustain it even at close to that level for another 500-600 IP, he'd be up there.