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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:40 pm

Removing 1995 entirely, adding his postseason, his career looks like this:

50-29 with 368 saves
1.93 ERA
0.98 WHIP
770IP
682K

Mo rivera's career as a closer(not quite up to date)

Is he the greatest closer of all time?? Would love to see some number comparisions. Also padre fans, feel free to post mr hoffmans career numbers in here to compare.
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Postby The Jury » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:55 pm

Those numbers are definitely nice and may line him up for the "best closer of all time" tag, but I don't think closers should get any more recognition career-wise than lights out relievers. They're all relief pitchers - you're either a starter or a reliever, IMO.
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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:57 pm

The Jury wrote:Those numbers are definitely nice and may line him up for the "best closer of all time" tag, but I don't think closers should get any more recognition career-wise than lights out relievers. They're all relief pitchers - you're either a starter or a reliever, IMO.


Ok that is fine. Is he the best reliever of all time then??

Who compares???
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:01 pm

too early for me to tell yet whether he will be the best of all time.... lets see how his last few years go first.... i would put him in top 5 easily though so far along with hoffman,,,, but gagne will probably be better than mo and hoffman once it is all said and done.......
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Postby NZF » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:08 pm

IMO Rivera is the best reliever of all time. The deciding factor for me is his record in the post season.

However the greatest achievement by a reliever will almost certainly never be surpassed, Eric Gagne and the consecutive save record. That is going to prove harder to beat than Di Maggio's hitting record.

The difficulty closers have had in 2005 has once again re-iterated just how impressive that record is.
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Postby nsulham » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:16 pm

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Postby beltrans_boy » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:21 pm

Here come wrveres and davidmarver...

I see them. They're over there. Right there!!
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Postby RynMan » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:24 pm

beltrans_boy wrote:Here come wrveres and davidmarver...

I see them. They're over there. Right there!!


Yeah I was gonna say if you do a search, I think you'll find a thread 345 pages long on this topic. :,-(
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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:26 pm

RynMan wrote:
beltrans_boy wrote:Here come wrveres and davidmarver...

I see them. They're over there. Right there!!


Yeah I was gonna say if you do a search, I think you'll find a thread 345 pages long on this topic. :,-(


they all got deleted.
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Postby The Jury » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:27 pm

Strasil42 wrote:
The Jury wrote:Those numbers are definitely nice and may line him up for the "best closer of all time" tag, but I don't think closers should get any more recognition career-wise than lights out relievers. They're all relief pitchers - you're either a starter or a reliever, IMO.


Ok that is fine. Is he the best reliever of all time then??

Who compares???


I can't even give an opinion because all-time covers so many years.. I don't keep track of players in past generations. I'm just a modern era fantasy addict :-D I'm not sure if he's been the best reliever of the modern era.
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