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Bad luck Clemens? Lidge only pitches bad on Clemens' starts

Postby jjigglers » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:36 pm

The good:
Brad Lidge in games where Clemens does not make appearance
Record: 1-0
SV/SVOpp: 12/12
IP: 21.1
WHIP: 1.172
ERA: 1.266

The bad (or not so bad, depending on expectations):
Brad Lidge on the year
Record: 2-2
SV/SVOpp: 16/19
IP: 29.0
WHIP: 1.345
ERA: 3.103

The ugly:
Brad Lidge, in games where Clemens pitches
Record: 1-2
SV/SVOpp: 4/7
IP: 7.2
WHIP: 1.826
ERA: 8.217

I was going to write a little something explaining the stats, but it really doesnt need an explanation.

So here's the question,
what do you think is wrong with Lidge when Clemens pitches, and will it change?
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:38 pm

Clemens should have 11-13 wins.
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Postby bd3521 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:39 pm

Clemens had sex with Brad's girlfriend.
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Postby jjigglers » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:47 pm

davidmarver wrote:Clemens should have 11-13 wins.


Considering he has only started 13 games (counting today), probably not. But 10 is reasonable (3 starts with no-decisions with 7.0IP and 0ER, the 3 blown saves by Lidge, and Roger's 4 wins).
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:50 pm

jjigglers wrote:
davidmarver wrote:Clemens should have 11-13 wins.


Considering he has only started 13 games (counting today), probably not. But 10 is reasonable (3 starts with no-decisions with 7.0IP and 0ER, the 3 blown saves by Lidge, and Roger's 4 wins).


I'm looking at his game log and the only bad game he pitched, he won. The other 12 are all winnable games by anyone's count.
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Postby jjigglers » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:55 pm

davidmarver wrote:I'm looking at his game log and the only bad game he pitched, he won. The other 12 are all winnable games by anyone's count.


They are no doubt winnable, but every pitcher faces bad luck every once in a while.
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Postby d18Mike » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:07 pm

I have both Clemens and Burnett -- the bad luck Batman and Robin. As a result I am first in all pitching categories in my league except wins. I am in last. Never seen anything like it. :~(
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Postby Madison » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:45 am

Sounds about like Beltran only hitting homers when Pedro pitches. :-?

Some wacky stats there. :-S
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Postby Simulacrum » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:17 pm

bd3521 wrote:Clemens had sex with Brad's girlfriend.


Yeah, but who hasn't? :-b
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Postby vladrules » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:59 pm

that's really weird. Have Lidge and he'd be even more phenomenal if he did better when Clemens.

Hmm, what did Clemens say or do to Lidge? :-D Seeing how Clemens has been amazing this year Lidge could have added some more Sv. It'd help if the setup/rp were better too.

why is Brad's girlfriend name mentioned? Am i missing something? Is she like Anna Benson or what?

anyways Lidge has been great and let's hope he gets even better.
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