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Postby jdh » Sun Jun 01, 2003 8:22 pm

According to Sporting News, Torre announced after the game that Contreras is now in the starting rotation and Weaver is a long reliever.
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Postby KDOGG » Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:11 pm

it was bound to happen when you pay that much for contreras and weaver pitching like crap lately
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Postby YankFan51 » Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:16 pm

that, and Contreras is probably the better pitcher to begin with.
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Postby Yankee_Magic » Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:45 pm

I'm glad that Contreras is finally getting a chance to start in the majors, I think he will do really well.
And Weaver will most likely get another start as Wells pitched 5 innings in relief today
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Postby BillyMafia » Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:50 pm

Would you pick Contrares up over T Lilly, D Willis, Foppert or S Ponson? If not then who to pickup out of those guys?
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Postby jdh » Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:52 pm

I would take Contreras over Willis, Foppert or Ponson. However, him and Lilly are pretty close. I think Lilly will progressively improve as the season goes along, working with an excellent pitching coach and learning from the big three. Contreras has the potential for more K's over Lilly, but if he starts struggling, and Weaver does well in relief, they may flip flop them again, whereas Lilly is firmly entrenched as Oakland's #4.
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Postby BillyMafia » Mon Jun 02, 2003 12:02 am

I'm in 14 team 5x5 h2h league. We have 7 P's and start 5. I always start my two RP's U Urbina and J Mesa. Right now Lilly is my #5 SP behind Schilling, R Halladay, K Brown and C Zambrano. I forgot that someone dropped F Garcia last week. Would you drop Lilly to pick him up?
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Postby HOOTIE » Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:16 am

BillyMafia wrote:Would you pick Contrares up over T Lilly, D Willis, Foppert or S Ponson? If not then who to pickup out of those guys?


I'm not as high on Lilly. I would rank them in a non keeper

Willis
Foppert
Contreras
Lilly
Ponson not worth ranking
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Postby Jack-In-A-Box » Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:06 am

Yankee_Magic wrote:I'm glad that Contreras is finally getting a chance to start in the majors, I think he will do really well.
And Weaver will most likely get another start as Wells pitched 5 innings in relief today


I'm not sure.. but didnt he get a few starts early in the season and get rocked?? I maybe wrong on him having started already. I'm not on the Contreras bandwagon yet but for the money he got he's gotta have something that impressed em.

As far as Weaver goes.. any point and hanging on to him?
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Postby jdh » Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:21 am

Contreras did get starts in spring training, but not in the regular season. Coming into spring training, the rotation was supposed to be Clemens, Petitte, Mussina, Wells and Contreras but Contreras was rocked all spring and Weaver had a great spring, so Weaver won out the 5th spot. They started using Contreras as a reliever to start the season, but he got rocked then too, so they sent him down to AAA, where he was lights out as a starter. He then came back up, got shellacked in one relief appearance, and then shut down the Jays for 4 innings before getting a chance as a starter.

In a mixed league, I'd cut Weaver. In an AL-only league, I'd hang onto him because he pitched well as a long reliever last year and could get some vulture wins. Also, the Yankees rotation is very old and injury prone (except Mussina). It's inevitable that one of their starters will go on the DL at some point and Weaver would go back into the rotation.
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