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Postby joeg24 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:59 pm

What are people doing with him?

Is he worth holding onto?
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Postby slomo007 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:02 pm

Hold on to him, don't start him.

Miley should be fired for thrusting him in to the closers' role so soon......that was utterly stupid. :-P :-P :-P
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Postby joeg24 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:06 pm

Did he ever have the job? I know he's two nice outings that killed my pitching last week wern't save ops
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Postby slomo007 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:08 pm

joeg24 wrote:Did he ever have the job? I know he's two nice outings that killed my pitching last week wern't save ops


Not officially...but he's by far the most talented reliever that Cincy has. Mentally he's not ready yet, but I'd say he's still worth holding on to due to his talent alone. I don't expect him to be all that great, but he's much better than he's pitching.

Releasing Graves was a HUGE mistake. Miley = Dusty = Terrible.
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Postby gws226 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:25 pm

I dumped him in leagues that either had holds or no compelling FA closer on the list....... In leagues that had no options, I benched him for the week.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:29 pm

Weathers got a save tonight. Wagner has been used in the 6th inning as of late. Do not see why you would hold onto him at this point. Weathers is not that goos, but it is pretty obvious that Wagner is not going to close anytime soon and burning a bench slot on him is dubious at best.
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Postby slomo007 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:30 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Weathers got a save tonight. Wagner has been used in the 6th inning as of late. Do not see why you would hold onto him at this point. Weathers is not that goos, but it is pretty obvious that Wagner is not going to close anytime soon and burning a bench slot on him is dubious at best.


When he's the only pitcher who should even be on a ML roster in the Cincy bullpen, I'd say he has a pretty good chance of getting the job back at some point. ;-)
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:38 pm

He never had it to start with. I do not doubt he is the best pitcher out their, but it seems pretty obvious current Reds management does not want him to close. Maybe when\if Miley gets the axe, btut that mightnot hapen for a couple of months if at all.
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Postby BobbyRoberto » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:44 am

Wagner's full of potential but I'm not using a roster spot for him anymore.

If you look at his career, he was great in 2003 (1.66 ERA in 21.2 IP) but hasn't been anything much since (4.70 ERA last season, 5.64 this season). Over the last 82 innings he's pitched, his ERA is 5.05 and he has a 1.59 WHIP.
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Postby ReginaldVelJohnson » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:11 am

I dropped him but I had 4 other closers (Gagne, Hoffman, Dempster, Dotel).
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