That wasn't even Livian's high for pitches in a game. He had one game where he threw 152 (or might of been 154), back in the day. Livian is a horse ... or maybe a pig would be a better comparison.
We know Livan is mr rubber arm but that's crazy. Livan is used to pitching a lot in games but that's an absurd amount of pitches. I believe the most he's thrown this year is 131 while reaching low 120's twice. Anyone hear any post game comments about how he felt? What's the most he's ever thrown in a game?
I was glad his next start was at home vs OAK but I won't be surprised if he does bad in next start. I was looking forward to him dominating OAK and I'd normally bench SP if prev start, pitcher threw a lot of pitches. but he should still handle oak easily. If it was a medium to hard team in his next start, I'd definitely bench him.
What a freaking Frank Robinson? Was the bullpen tired? Nationals have a decent pen. It's not like Livan had a SO going. I'm peeved. WTF?
This just shows you how much the game has changed over time....20 years ago this would just be another quality start. Livan would be back out there after 4 days rest, fresh and ready to go....thats how u earn that pay check!
This field, this game, it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh people will come Ray, people will most definitely come.
Pitch counts are important imo, but mainly for young sp. Livan is 30. And he has bucked pitch counts his whole career, always up there in innings, pitches per season, pitches per start. If i had to pick one guy to handle 150 pitches, it would be Livan or RJ. He could tire faster his next start however.
The last sp to hit 150 pitches, was Ron Villone in 2000 with the Reds. Livan has 3 of the 9 highest pitch counts this year. He's a horse.
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He's a horse who's more valuable to his team than to fantasy teams because he provides many quality innings. Fantasy teams are better off finding alternatives who put up better numbers even if that's over less innings.
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it's amazing he is only 30, seems like he has been around forever. what i love about him is he is not afraid to walk guys he doesn't want to give in to. statline usually includes 3-5 walks but somehow they don't hurt him much.
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