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Postby bd3521 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:59 pm

Anyone think that Maggs could have any impact down the stretch?


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Magglio Ordonez hit off a tee and played catch Wednesday, taking another small step toward playing after having hernia surgery in April.
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Postby go_jays_go » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:16 pm

He's not going to be very valuable in Roto.

However, if you wanted to use him for H2H, maybe he could put up some numbers that could help you in the homestretch.

I wouldn't want him tho ;-7
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Postby matmat » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:20 pm

go_jays_go wrote:He's not going to be very valuable in Roto.

However, if you wanted to use him for H2H, maybe he could put up some numbers that could help you in the homestretch.



I really don't understand that statement... why would he be any more valuable in H2H than roto?
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Postby RugbyD » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:24 pm

i'm happy to accomodate him in a DL slot for now, so long as nobody important needs it.
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Postby go_jays_go » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:26 pm

matmat wrote:
go_jays_go wrote:He's not going to be very valuable in Roto.

However, if you wanted to use him for H2H, maybe he could put up some numbers that could help you in the homestretch.



I really don't understand that statement... why would he be any more valuable in H2H than roto?


Because the difference of rules. You face people once a week and get points for certain stats. So maybe one day when ur facing somebody he gets you more points in your playoffs etc.

In roto you would have to be really close to somebody in a hitting category that Maggs could do.
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Postby converge241 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:33 pm

RugbyD wrote:i'm happy to accomodate him in a DL slot for now, so long as nobody important needs it.


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Postby matmat » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:05 am

go_jays_go wrote:
Because the difference of rules. You face people once a week and get points for certain stats. So maybe one day when ur facing somebody he gets you more points in your playoffs etc.



lol. I totally don't agree. it would entirely depend on who he would replace in your lineup. why wouldn't you want him in place of your fourth or fifh outfielder? if he comes back in mid july, that still gives him half a season, in which, if he produces anywhere near to his numbers from the last few years, he will be a great addition to the lineup.
Then again he could, of course, just tear something else in his body.
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Postby Krunk City King$ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:07 am

did not even see this thread on the trash compactor monster level of the first page....


here is another report

Magglio Ordoñez - OF - Tigers


Magglio Ordonez, who underwent hernia surgery five weeks ago, hit off a tee and played catch today.
The Tigers are sticking to the original eight- to 12-week timetable for Ordonez, saying he'd probably return in another three to seven weeks. Once Ordonez returns, the Tigers will probably put Craig Monroe back in center field, sending Nook Logan to the bench. Jun. 1 - 10:
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Postby AT » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:36 am

matmat wrote:
go_jays_go wrote:
Because the difference of rules. You face people once a week and get points for certain stats. So maybe one day when ur facing somebody he gets you more points in your playoffs etc.



lol. I totally don't agree. it would entirely depend on who he would replace in your lineup. why wouldn't you want him in place of your fourth or fifh outfielder? if he comes back in mid july, that still gives him half a season, in which, if he produces anywhere near to his numbers from the last few years, he will be a great addition to the lineup.
Then again he could, of course, just tear something else in his body.


It's true that Maggs is more valuable NOW to a H2H team because you could stash him on your roster and get value from him down the road while you don't need the roster space right now. It's hard to explain but having superstars on your bench for future use is much more acceptable for H2H than it is for Roto where you need to Accumulate stats and therefore would need players who can help you NOW. Yes, when he is active he will be just as valuable to a Roto team but for the time being it makes more sense to stash him on your bench for future use in a H2H league.
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Postby BigMusky » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:58 am

Adding a superstar to your lineup really can push you over the edge in the playoffs of H2H, but that assumes you have made the playoffs without your star. So to say you need a player more in Roto then H2H right NOW, is not that simple. I can see the arguement that in roto if you have no suitable replacement you could fall behind so far in certain catagories you will never catchup, but how often does that really happen? usually you can stay pretty close or at least in striking range of a few teams ahead of you, bring a star back late in the season could help you gain alot of ground (points) in a close race. Obviously you are not going to make huge leaps and bounds and probably will never catch the leaders who have not suffered any setbacks.
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