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Postby TB13 » Fri May 27, 2005 1:04 pm

Arrowhead Nation wrote:Buddy he is here through 2007....why trade him now, if all we get for him is crap????????

Because you can finish last without him. And you are not going to get crap for him, but doubtfull that LA would give their top 3 prospects in one trade.
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Postby toofunnyy » Fri May 27, 2005 1:32 pm

"Sweeney is a top 10 AL hitter"

I think you meant top 10 1st basemen in the AL.
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Postby Laean » Fri May 27, 2005 3:06 pm

angels won't give all their top prospects away for sweeney.

last year when they were right in the thick of the division title race, AND when they were in need of a true ace after fatolo colon was sucking real bad, they could've had randy johnson but wouldn't give up even one top prospect in dallas mcpherson to get the deal done.

i somehow doubt they'd give dallas or dallas + more prospects to get sweeney when they didn't do it to get the Unit.
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Postby thehat » Fri May 27, 2005 3:18 pm

Arrowhead Nation wrote:Buddy he is here through 2007....why trade him now, if all we get for him is crap????????

Sweeney is a top 10 AL hitter and all you guys are saying he isnt even worth a teams top prospect.

You're correct. KC does not have to trade Sweeney and if they do should command top prospects in return.

Of course, the same could have been said for several other players who have departed the scene, but that didn't stop the Royals from doing what they did.

You have an owner who doesn't get it and never has. As long as he runs the show, you have no chance.
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Postby swingaway » Fri May 27, 2005 9:19 pm

isnt erstad under a bad contract 2 maybe a swap of contracts would do it. :-? erstad and a marginal prospect for sweeney.
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Postby Arrowhead Nation » Fri May 27, 2005 9:47 pm

swingaway wrote:isnt erstad under a bad contract 2 maybe a swap of contracts would do it. :-? erstad and a marginal prospect for sweeney.

Oh your so smart and brilliant thats such a great deal....

Get a frickin clue....
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Fri May 27, 2005 11:31 pm

this would make my day. I just traded for him and Pujols in my league.
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Postby Phatferd » Sat May 28, 2005 12:07 am

Arrowhead, I am sorry, but if all the Royals fans are like you no wonder that organization has fallen into mediocrity. You can have Sweeney and finish in 4th or 5th place until 2007 or trade him clear up 11 million and still finish in 4th or 5th place.

Either way your team will live on the bottom of the AL Central, so why spend 11 million on 1 player? Free it up, get some prospects (not all 3 of the Angels top) sign a pitcher or 2, or even throw a lot of money at Jared Weaver or a top prospect in this years draft (assuming Weaver goes back in).

Your team is full of prospects there is no denying it. Trade your best player and build around those prospects not your old veteran player. Be happy with the unloaded salary and a player like Joe Saunders or Callaspo or even an Aybar. Hell maybe even Kotchman. You aren't going to get Kotchman and another top prospect. You may be able to get 2 of the others, but if Kotchman is in the deal it won't happen.

Then with the free 11 million, sign Weaver and you have a future ace or at least a number 2 or 3 starter. Put him with Grienke and hope Hernandez finds his form and hopefully another young pitcher comes from somewhere and you have a very solid base.

Sweeney is your key for all of this.
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Postby nuggets » Sat May 28, 2005 12:11 am

From the KC star:


Trade winds still circulate

Sweeney subject of speculation, but no deal is close yet

By BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star

ARLINGTON, Texas — The possibility that Royals veteran slugger Mike Sweeney might wind up in Texas prompted stories Wednesday in each of the Metroplex's two major newspapers.

Similar speculation is anticipated this weekend in Los Angeles when the Royals arrive for a three-game series against the Angels, who, like the Rangers, want to add pop to their lineup.

ESPN and national publications such as USA Today and The Sporting News, among others, regularly tout Sweeney as one of the summer's top trade candidates. Royals general manager Allard Baird even acknowledges a willingness to listen to offers — only he has yet to hear anything interesting.

The mounting speculation could leave Sweeney, 31, twisting in the wind, except he has Baird's word that he'll learn of any genuine trade possibility before news leaks to the media.

“That is what is keeping me focused,” Sweeney said. “I have yet to get a phone call from Allard, so I know nothing is close to happening.”

Indeed, all indications from Baird and other club officials suggest nothing is close, despite the rumors. Further, the Royals and officials from other clubs say any deal faces significant hurdles.

Teams calling Baird to inquire into Sweeney's availability are insisting the Royals pick up a significant portion of his guaranteed contract, which runs through the 2007 season.

That's a nonstarter with the Royals, who not only aren't interested in eating any portion of Sweeney's contract but also want a high-level prospect or two in return — a “baseball deal” in Baird's words.

The finances are significant. The Royals still owe Sweeney about $30 million on the five-year, $55 million extension he signed before the 2002 season. Any trade triggers a clause that boosts his annual salary from $11 million to $12.5 million, which puts the bill at roughly $34 million for any interested team.

That would be a tough sell even if other teams overlook Sweeney's history of back problems.

Further, Baird indicated club owner David Glass and president Dan Glass are more interested in adding a bat to the lineup than subtracting one.

The Royals feel no pressure to move Sweeney, precisely because of his contract. He isn't a pending free agent, which is what fueled trades involving outfielders Carlos Beltran, Johnny Damon and Jermaine Dye in recent years.

Baird has Sweeney's contract already budgeted for the next two years in a payroll that has lots of wiggle room because of the club's youth movement.

“Mike Sweeney is a Kansas City Royal,” Baird said. “He's a very productive major-league hitter who is a proven RBI bat. His effort and energy have also allowed him to improve his play at first base.

“We expect all of that to continue.”

Doubling up

The Royals have 36 doubles in their last 16 games, including at least one in 15 of those 16 games.

It's been a balanced attack. Ruben Gotay, Mark Teahen and David DeJesus each have five in that span, while Emil Brown and John Buck have four apiece.

Mike Sweeney remains the club leader with 13 doubles, including three in the last 16 games.

Overall, the Royals entered Wednesday with 76 doubles, which tied Minnesota for 21st among baseball's 30 teams.

Better thievery

The Royals are back to a 50 percent success rate in stealing bases. Terrence Long's steal of second in the fifth inning boosted the club's season total to 19 in 38 attempts.

“We've got to be smart about it,” Schaefer said. “We'll still steal bases if I think we can steal a base, but we're not going to run ourselves out of an inning or play stupid baseball just so we can say we stole a base.”

Injury updates

Results from the magnetic resonance imaging exam on first baseman Ken Harvey revealed a lower-back strain. He is scheduled to begin air swings and soft toss today before being re-evaluated Friday by team physician Steve Joyce.

Left-hander Brian Anderson tested his inflamed left elbow for a second day by playing catch. He is scheduled to undergo an examination this weekend in Los Angeles by physician Lewis Yocum.

Right-hander Kyle Snyder, nursing a strained right shoulder, is on schedule to begin throwing from a mound next Tuesday when the club returns home for a six-game home stand.

Minor details

Class AAA Omaha lefty Jimmy Gobble allowed just two runs and four hits in seven innings Tuesday night but settled for a no-decision in a 4-2 loss to Fresno. Reliever Shawn Camp got the loss after giving up two runs on three hits and three walks in two innings.

Omaha outfielder Aaron Guiel went hitless in four at-bats and is just one for 21 in his last five games. His average is down from .295 to .265.

Third baseman Billy Butler went four for five with two homers and four RBIs in Class A High Desert's 14-4 victory at Stockton.


• Hank Blalock tied the Texas record for consecutive errorless games by a third baseman at 53. Buddy Bell, who interviewed Wednesday for the Royals' managerial vacancy, had a 53-game streak in 1979.

• Rangers outfielder Laynce Nix was ejected in the fifth inning for arguing a called third strike by umpire Paul Emmel.

• Zack Greinke's six losses are the most this season by a pitcher without a win.
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Postby Wozzyck » Sat May 28, 2005 12:22 am

Honestly, I don't understand the excitement over Sweeney getting traded to the Angels, from the perspective of a fantasy owner. Either the Royals make the decision to keep Sweeney (which would be bad for his fantasy value), or they decide to trade him to the highest bidder. These bidders could include Texas, Anaheim, Boston, NY (either team), Atlanta, etc..

If the Royals do in fact trade Sweeney, Anaheim would be one of the places I would least like to see him go (amongst reasonable destinations). They play in, at best, a neutral park, their team doesn't get on base, and the only notable bats in the lineup are Vlad (of course) and the overrated Anderson (the rest is filler). You should be praying he goes to Texas.
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