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Postby Simulacrum » Thu May 26, 2005 11:35 am

Otsuka is still owned in my league. Here's his line from yesterday-


IP W SV K ERA WHIP

0.0 0 0 0 INF INF

Surely the INF can't stand for Infinite. What does it mean? :-?
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Thu May 26, 2005 11:36 am

_Simulacrum_ wrote:Surely the INF can't stand for Infinite. What does it mean? :-?

I'm pretty sure it does. He gave up three runs and didn't record an out. If you plug the numbers in the ERA and WHIP formula you end up dividing by zero and anything divided by 0 is infinity. :-o
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Postby Yoda » Thu May 26, 2005 11:43 am

Not sure how true this is but it seems like to me that a lot of Japanese pitchers burn out after a few years.

Some of them burn out as quickly as after one year. Nomo, Ishii, Sasaki, Otsuka, Takatsu, Ohka, etc...
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Postby Simulacrum » Thu May 26, 2005 11:44 am

And yet this other team didn't take an ERA or WHIP hit at all. Very very strange. :-?
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Thu May 26, 2005 11:45 am

_Simulacrum_ wrote:And yet this other team didn't take an ERA or WHIP hit at all. Very very strange. :-?

I'm not sure I follow? :-?
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Postby Simulacrum » Thu May 26, 2005 11:57 am

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:
_Simulacrum_ wrote:And yet this other team didn't take an ERA or WHIP hit at all. Very very strange. :-?

I'm not sure I follow? :-?


I just meant the other team had Otsuka in the lineup, and he went in and gave up three runs without getting an out. If Otsuka's ERA and whip for the day were infinite, I would expect the other manager's #'s in the roto league to have taken a hit. Infinite's a pretty big number, but this guy didn't gain or lose any points. Does that make sense? :-?
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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu May 26, 2005 12:26 pm

Methinks one needs a lesson in math.

3 ERs over 0 IPS is Infinite ERA for that day (or indeterminate\undefined depending on which math notation you want to use).

ERA for a team over the course of the season is ER/IPs * 9. So one night's 3 ERs would up the numerator by 3 while leaving the denomitor the same for the running total and not have a great impact at this point on a fantasy team's ERA though it certainly is not going to help.
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Postby klvrdude » Thu May 26, 2005 12:53 pm

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:Last night on the broadcast they kept going on about how with runners on he loses pretty much every advantage he has. His major asset is the deception and with runners he can't use the leg kick and stuff so all that's left is mediocre stuff. Look at these splits :-o
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               G    IP   H    R   ER   HR   BB   K    ERA     WHIP   BAA    
Bases Empty    21  9.1   15   1    1    2    5   8    0.96    2.14   .349    
Runners On     17  11.0  9    9    9    1    6   10   7.36    1.36   .231    
RISP           13  5.1   4    7    7    0    4   5    11.81   1.50   .222


What kind of deception is it when the opp have a BAA of .349? As someone who was really pushing for him, he sucks ass on a good day this year.
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Postby rmeesig » Thu May 26, 2005 1:00 pm

Bochy was on the radio this morning and said he will be giving Otsuka some 6th and 7th inning work for the next few days. Didn't mention much about what he thought the problem was, so most likely just a mental thing.

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Postby Darkie Satchels » Thu May 26, 2005 1:04 pm

I actually gave away Eaton in a drunken haze for Otsuka (seriously - don't as why...) and was never so pissed off in all my days for every wrong reason possible involving both the trade and both players seemingly opposite performances this year. I still hate myself. Nothing, and I mean nothing stings more than dropping a traded player.
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