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Postby ocmusicjunkie » Tue May 24, 2005 4:32 am

Well Beltrans, it looks like you really should ride it out with Vlad. The trade would really serve no use... just clog up two spots that are already full of talent. Unless you wanna try pawning him off for a pitcher (or two) before the MRI's get back...

Anyway, Helton should bounce back just fine. He's been an elite player for a very long time, and I don't see any reason for a decline now. He's not old enough for age to play a major factor, and he's not "slumping" for anyone other than him.
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Postby jjigglers » Tue May 24, 2005 4:36 am

The Helton watch

Last 23 AB:
.043 AVG
2 R
1 RBI
0 HR
0 SB
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Postby Laean » Tue May 24, 2005 4:39 am

beltrans_boy wrote:
ocmusicjunkie wrote:
beltrans_boy wrote:I was offered Helton and Jose Guillen for my injured Vlad...I'm wondering if I should take it...


Yes, you should.

I still suspect Vlad is more seriously hurt than they are letting on. There are three types of shoulder separation, and as a rule none is more painful than another. However, they range from minor injuries to possibly career-changing. Until MRI's come back, nobody knows. Once they do come back, it'll be too late if it's a second or third degree.

Helton is going to get back to a top 15 player. If you can make good use of Guillen in the OF, I say go for it.


Well that's the thing, my hitting is really strong...even without Vlad.

C - V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B - J. Morneau (Min - 1B)
2B - T. Iguchi (CWS - 2B)
3B - E. Chavez (Oak - 3B)
SS - M. Tejada (Bal - SS)
OF - V. Wells (Tor - OF)
OF - H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF - I. Suzuki (Sea - OF)
Util - A. Huff (TB - 1B, 3B, OF)

Guillen is the real hold up here. I don't really need him, but the owner seems to want to pawn him off for almost nothing. But I just can't see myself trading for someone who's going to ride on my bench most of the time. As it is, if I get Helton, I'll have to bench Morneau.


given your circumstances, i wouldn't do the trade.
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Postby ocmusicjunkie » Tue May 24, 2005 4:44 am

jjigglers wrote:The Helton watch

Last 23 AB:
.043 AVG
2 R
1 RBI
0 HR
0 SB


Season:

43/147
.293 AVG
19 RBI
5 HR

Career April Splits:

.294 AVG
17.65 RBI/year
4.125 HR/year

This April:

.267 AVG
9 RBI
1 HR

This Month:

.319 AVG
10 RBI
4 HR

He's always slow the first month of the season. This year, it was just a little worst than usual. His overall numbers are just taking a little while to catch back up to pace.
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Peavy - 2.89 ERA, 10.10 K/9

[b]Lets go Rich![/b]
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Postby rainman23 » Tue May 24, 2005 12:11 pm

colt4523 wrote:Helton is pissing me off too. I drafted him over santana in my roto league because I went with the philosophy of hitting first. I need him to hit :-/


Wow, I can't feel sorry for anyone who drafted Helton over Santana. Some of you guys carry this "no pitchers early" philosophy way too far.
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Postby cordscords » Tue May 24, 2005 12:30 pm

I grabbed Helton in the first (11th out of 14), Crawford on the way back, and Blalock in the third.

Really glad to see my top picks contributing!

As for Helton- I'm hoping he heats up as the weather does. He was the consenus 1B after Pujols so I'm hoping he winds up there come the seasons end!
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Postby nikku88 » Tue May 24, 2005 12:46 pm

He was my 1st rounder in a league with walks and hits so he is more valuable. Well, at least he still walks. :~(
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Postby nuggets » Tue May 24, 2005 12:57 pm

beltrans_boy wrote:I was offered Helton and Jose Guillen for my injured Vlad...I'm wondering if I should take it...


I would
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Postby bluefire7 » Tue May 24, 2005 2:38 pm

nikku88 wrote:He was my 1st rounder in a league with walks and hits so he is more valuable. Well, at least he still walks. :~(


same here + ops. but he still better hit more hr's.. :-o
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Postby Jester » Tue May 24, 2005 2:55 pm

After reading all of these sob stories, I'm beginning to think that Helton is the perfect buy low candidate right now!!
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