Mr. Graves is likely going to be an MR somewhere. Someone will take a chance on him for the minimum after he clears. Not much to lose. How much there is to gain is debateable also. I guess that middle finger was too much for Reds maneagement because they have to pay him anyway and they could have sent him to the BP for long relief. Maybe someone would have taken him July 31st for a bag of rocks and a low-level prospect. Now they will get nada.
TheYanks04 wrote:Mr. Graves is likely going to be an MR somewhere. Someone will take a chance on him for the minimum after he clears. Not much to lose. How much there is to gain is debateable also. I guess that middle finger was too much for Reds maneagement because they have to pay him anyway and they could have sent him to the BP for long relief. Maybe someone would have taken him July 31st for a bag of rocks and a low-level prospect. Now they will get nada.
first, veres, it's only been 10 years since the reds had some consistently strong standards.
second, graves was careless. he continued to throw penguins down the chute, or just lifeless (fast?)balls and sinkers. it was, and it has been brutal to watch. should milton prove as ineffective for as long a stretch of time, i should think the same fate would befall him.
third, good riddance. the reds need a complete overhaul. someone in that organization needs to take a little peek at the minnesota twins and jot down some notes. dang.
but yeah, back to graves. he gave a lot to the city, but proceeded to coast on the momentum. he got out of shape, and lost at least 5mph without developing any better control or movement. wretched.
benjapage wrote:first, veres, it's only been 10 years since the reds had some consistently strong standards.
second, graves was careless. he continued to throw penguins down the chute, or just lifeless (fast?)balls and sinkers. it was, and it has been brutal to watch. should milton prove as ineffective for as long a stretch of time, i should think the same fate would befall him.
third, good riddance. the reds need a complete overhaul. someone in that organization needs to take a little peek at the minnesota twins and jot down some notes. dang.
but yeah, back to graves. he gave a lot to the city, but proceeded to coast on the momentum. he got out of shape, and lost at least 5mph without developing any better control or movement. wretched.
Wow......Just completely cut ties? I'd at least think they could use him in mop up duty and save their better arms for when it actually matters.
Doubt they get much in a trade. Maybe a bag of used baseballs or a peanut vendor, or something.
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wrveres wrote: almost makes you miss Marge, no ...?
Hey now, that's a low blow
Graves wasn't cut for his performance. He was cut as a favor to fans, to try to get them to start coming back to the stadium. Attendance has been horrible the last few weeks. Obviously, unless the Reds start winning, it doesn't matter who's on the field, nobody's going to go to the games - but that seems to be beyond Reds' management's small minds.
After Grave's comments a couple weeks ago about the fans (as well as due to his performance), he became the least popular player in Cincy. Flicking off a fan in the $175 seats in Sunday's game was the last straw.
Of course, the official reason for his designation will always be performance.
I think I'm going to adopt a new team to root for.
antbody know who the guys was in the high-priced seat that graves was playing charades with? might be someone with some leverage of sorts. Other players have done worse and not been cut.
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by TheYanks04 » Mon May 23, 2005 8:18 pm 
I'd at least think they could use him in mop up duty and save their better arms for when it actually matters. 
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