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Postby Chuckles » Mon May 23, 2005 5:25 pm

max01889 wrote:
logan wrote:now the question is who is more valuable. bennero or wagner :-?


I'm in the process of cutting Bernero for Wagner. He seems like more of a sure thing to get the save opps.


That's my thought as well, although I have both. I'm not sold on Bernero as of yet...we'll see as soon as he gets a save opp though.
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Postby Schnoo » Mon May 23, 2005 5:26 pm

There is one thing that has yet to be mentioned in all of this talk of cutting Bernero for Ryan Wagner. Yes it is true that Bernero may be in more of a committee situation, but I think it also must be noted that Atlanta's team will probably create so many more save opportunities than Cincy will. Even if Bernero is in a closer by committee situation, he still may see just as mnay opportunities as Wagner even if Wagner has the closer role all to himself.
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Postby RugbyD » Mon May 23, 2005 5:34 pm

am i the only one worried that this could turn into a Larry Rothschild experiment?
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Postby NZF » Mon May 23, 2005 5:36 pm

Wagner has blown all 3 of his career save opportunities.

If it is his job, it'll be very interesting to see how he goes in the closers role.

I certainly won't be rushing to pick him up.
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Postby wrveres » Mon May 23, 2005 5:38 pm

Schnoo wrote:There is one thing that has yet to be mentioned in all of this talk of cutting Bernero for Ryan Wagner. Yes it is true that Bernero may be in more of a committee situation, but I think it also must be noted that Atlanta's team will probably create so many more save opportunities than Cincy will. Even if Bernero is in a closer by committee situation, he still may see just as mnay opportunities as Wagner even if Wagner has the closer role all to himself.


I don't have the numbers off hand ..

But it seems to me that Graves had a ton more opportunities than Smoltz over the last couple of years..
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Postby jimmyrad » Mon May 23, 2005 5:44 pm

wrveres wrote:
Schnoo wrote:There is one thing that has yet to be mentioned in all of this talk of cutting Bernero for Ryan Wagner. Yes it is true that Bernero may be in more of a committee situation, but I think it also must be noted that Atlanta's team will probably create so many more save opportunities than Cincy will. Even if Bernero is in a closer by committee situation, he still may see just as mnay opportunities as Wagner even if Wagner has the closer role all to himself.


I don't have the numbers off hand ..

But it seems to me that Graves had a ton more opportunities than Smoltz over the last couple of years..

I have no stats on hand either, and while I wouldn't go as far to say "a ton more," I definitely don't think ATL has any sort of Save Opp. differential (this year or last) that should cause someone to hesitate on a Red's closer.
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Postby Chuckles » Mon May 23, 2005 5:47 pm

wrveres wrote:
Schnoo wrote:There is one thing that has yet to be mentioned in all of this talk of cutting Bernero for Ryan Wagner. Yes it is true that Bernero may be in more of a committee situation, but I think it also must be noted that Atlanta's team will probably create so many more save opportunities than Cincy will. Even if Bernero is in a closer by committee situation, he still may see just as mnay opportunities as Wagner even if Wagner has the closer role all to himself.


I don't have the numbers off hand ..

But it seems to me that Graves had a ton more opportunities than Smoltz over the last couple of years..


That's my thought as well. Saves are so hard to predict anyway, so really it's a crapshoot. And the fact that Bernero might be part of a committee over Wagner is a concern. The fact that Wagner has blown all three save opps. is a tad misleading too, as I'm assuming those occurred in past years. That's hardly a sample anyway, but it is something to consider I guess. It's hard/impossible to say for sure, it's just the gut feeling I get.
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Postby joeg24 » Mon May 23, 2005 5:54 pm

Would anyone drop Dempster for him? Or Street?
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Postby swingaway » Mon May 23, 2005 6:00 pm

dont drop graves he probably will get signed or clamied by some team deperate for a closer mayeb atlantan and mazz :-? then kolb get let go :-B
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Postby Simulacrum » Mon May 23, 2005 6:02 pm

Add me to the list of people who dropped Bernero for Wagner. Here's my logic. My other closers are-

Turnbow
Lidge
Lyon
Hermanson

I want to run five because I'm behind in saves and need to catch up. Now Bernero is on waivers until the 26th. This keeps someone else (like the Graves owner in my league) from snapping up Wagner for the time being. If I want Bernero back because it looks like he's the regular closer I can wake up at midnight and recover him on the 26th, and figure out who to drop at that point.
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